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<FONT FACE="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:11pt'><If the "sms" runs and is facilitated across the IP Core (such as NGNs) does this qualify it to be part of the internet?<BR>
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And if I access popular Internet sites via apps from my mobile phone is this part of the Internet?<BR>
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We are probably getting to a stage where technical definitions and sensible governance definitions are heading in different directions..<BR>
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Ian Peter <BR>
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<HR ALIGN=CENTER SIZE="3" WIDTH="95%"><B>From: </B>"Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" <<a href="salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com">salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com</a>><BR>
<B>Reply-To: </B><<a href="governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a>>, "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" <<a href="salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com">salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com</a>><BR>
<B>Date: </B>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 09:32:22 +1200<BR>
<B>To: </B><<a href="governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a>>, Roland Perry <<a href="roland@internetpolicyagency.com">roland@internetpolicyagency.com</a>><BR>
<B>Subject: </B>Re: [governance] Request for Information [ICT4 health/ E Health]<BR>
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If the "sms" runs and is facilitated across the IP Core (such as NGNs) does this qualify it to be part of the internet?<BR>
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On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Roland Perry <<a href="roland@internetpolicyagency.com">roland@internetpolicyagency.com</a>> wrote:<BR>
</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:11pt'>In message <<a href="75822E125BCB994F8446858C4B19F0D71750B1B911@SUEX07-MBX-04.ad.syr.edu">75822E125BCB994F8446858C4B19F0D71750B1B911@SUEX07-MBX-04.ad.syr.edu</a> <<a href="mailto:75822E125BCB994F8446858C4B19F0D71750B1B911@SUEX07-MBX-04.ad.syr.edu">mailto:75822E125BCB994F8446858C4B19F0D71750B1B911@SUEX07-MBX-04.ad.syr.edu</a>> >, at 16:26:51 on Sat, 23 Jul 2011, Milton L Mueller <<a href="mueller@syr.edu">mueller@syr.edu</a>> writes<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:11pt'>SMS is not Internet protocol. Just so there's no confusion.<BR>
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Sure, but you would have the same issue if you decided to use Twitter or Skype to dispatch your ambulances.<BR>
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(I'm not saying any of these claim to be suitable for the application in question, but you'd be surprised how people make assumptions).<BR>
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And I'd expect most institutionalised SMS sending to be initiated "over the Internet" before it hits the mobile networks at an SMS message centre, so IP creeps into solutions like this almost inevitably.<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:11pt'>-----Original Message-----<BR>
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 20:00 PKT Roland Perry wrote:<BR>
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>In message<BR>
>I remember many years ago talking to health authorities who wanted to<BR>
use mobile phone SMS to tell where ambulances where to go (they call<BR>
this activity "dispatching"). They became justifiably concerned when<BR>
they couldn't find any QoS guarantees from the mobile phone operators<BR>
about when those SMS might be delivered (you'd need "within a few<BR>
seconds", probably; "within 4hrs" won't be much use).<BR>
>-- Roland Perry<BR>
</SPAN></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:11pt'>[Milton L Mueller]<BR>
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