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color:black">Hi, Avri Thanks you for your support.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";mso-fareast-font-family:
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color:black">First of all, would you please select the any subject proposed in
my previous email or any other topic to replace the current one, as our
discussion is relating to give benefit to Developing Economies, Reduction of
Overall Cost (incl fee) for non-Commercial applicants as well as non-commercial
namespace. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.25in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal; "><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Verdana","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:
"Times New Roman";color:black">>In all seriousness - to the extent that is
possible after a flight from Singapore, as a member of the JAS WG which is
trying to get the fees lowered for qualified applicants from developing
economies and to get other assistance since the application fee is, as you
indicated, just the tip of iceberg, I would appreciate assistance and
comment from the IGC community.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black">Would you please share the information / basis of the following
fee structure defined or proposed by JAS WG?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black">Applicants must be capable of contributing $45,000 towards ICANN's
application fee, unless ICANN waives, or lowers application fees.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black">the applicant must be capable of contributing a quarter of the
scheduled fee.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="font-size: small; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: normal; "><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><span style="mso-list:Ignore">c.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><font class="Apple-style-span" face="verdana, helvetica, sans-serif"><span dir="LTR"></span></font><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; ">Applicants must be capable of contributing $45,000 towards
registry operational costs, if the applicant proposes to</font><font class="Apple-style-span" face="verdana, helvetica, sans-serif"> </font></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="verdana, helvetica, sans-serif">operate its own
registry platform<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="font-size: small; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: normal; "><!--[if !supportLists]--><font class="Apple-style-span" face="verdana, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; "><span style="mso-list:Ignore">e.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; ">Waive (consensus for
this in the Milestone report) the Program Development Costs (US$26,000)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size: small; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.25in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="verdana, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="mso-tab-count:1"> <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span> </span>Q:<span style="mso-tab-count:
1"> </span>{is it reduced cost, or after reduction? Or the cost which
is proposed to be waived off}<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="font-size: small; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: normal; "><!--[if !supportLists]--><font class="Apple-style-span" face="verdana, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; "><span style="mso-list:Ignore">f.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; ">Lower risk/contingency
cost (US$60,000)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="font-size: small; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: normal; "><!--[if !supportLists]--><font class="Apple-style-span" face="verdana, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; "><span style="mso-list:Ignore">g.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; ">Review Base cost
(US$100,000) to see if reduction can be made<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: normal; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="2" face="verdana, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: normal; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="2" face="verdana, helvetica, sans-serif">Q:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>{And Finally, the figure of 76% and capability of $45,000 came from where? Is it any estimation of by JSA WG that a standard organization from developing economies has surplus budget about this? to invest for the Internet Community welfare scheme like participation of new gTLDs?}</font></p>
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mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black"><o:p> P.S. Hopefully the next communication would be with the new subject.</o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal; "><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black"><o:p><br></o:p></span></p></div><div style="color: black; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; ">Thanks</div><div style="color: black; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; "><br></div><div style="color: black; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; ">Imran Ahmed Shah<br><div style="font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:8pt"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Avri Doria <avri@ella.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> IGC <governance@lists.cpsr.org><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sun, 26 June, 2011 4:35:17<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [governance] Can Icann really be necessary?<br></font><br><br>On 25 Jun 2011, at 14:25, Imran Ahmed Shah wrote:<br><br>>
(Keeping in mind that it is not a case of current ccTLD who allow the alternate usage e.g. .tv is being used as television channel). <br><br>And as the favorite domain name for transvestites.<br><br>In fact there was an incident of one NYC TV becoming a domaineer and buying up the names of all the NY girls and then turning around and selling them for a good profit. (will .nyc restrict who can buy tv.nyc? or the third level e.g. sister-dimension.tv.nyc)*<br><br>Got to love those ccTLDs where it is still policy free virgin territory, so to speak, where most anything goes. With all the rules we have created for gTLDs - with TM owners and Law Enforcement finding new ways to stifle expression and the market, the ccTLDS look better and better all the time. Soon the saying will be - let a thousand IDN ccTLDs bloom.<br><br>In all seriousness - to the extent that is possible after a flight from Singapore, as a member of the JAS WG which
is trying to get the fees lowered for qualified applicants from developing economies and to get other assistance since the application fee is, as you indicated, just the tip of iceberg, I would appreciate assistance and comment from the IGC community. One of the first things folks could do is read and comment on the JAS WG second milestone report:<br><a href="http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#second-milestone-report" target="_blank">http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#second-milestone-report</a><br><br>As for the perenial existential and normative questions about ICANN's existence: the only thing i know for sure is that it exists. So i deal with it.<br><br>a.<br><br>* i should note for truth in advertising, i am providing research help to a few new gtld applicants including .gay<br><br>------<br>Pick your poison: Kool-Aid or Hemlock!<br><br><br><br><br>____________________________________________________________<br>You
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