No my dear, this translation is equal to nothing!!!!!<div><br><div>This mesagge translated this way means nothing!!!!! it has no value for a debate!!!!!</div><div><br></div><div>This is a good example of what I have just said in another mesagge -in spanish-. </div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/6/8 Ivar A. M. Hartmann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ivarhartmann@gmail.com">ivarhartmann@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Just to illustrate how viable the method mentioned by Rui would be, I put Tapani's comment on Google translator and this is what I got:<br>"<span lang="en"><span title="Clique para mostrar traduções alternativas">This is how it</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar traduções alternativas">is</span><span title="Clique para mostrar traduções alternativas">,</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar traduções alternativas">but</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar traduções alternativas">even though</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar traduções alternativas">I</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar traduções alternativas">understand</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar traduções alternativas">I</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar traduções alternativas">also</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar traduções alternativas">reasonably</span><br>
<span title="Clique para mostrar traduções alternativas">Spanish</span><span title="Clique para mostrar traduções alternativas">,</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar traduções alternativas">I'm</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar traduções alternativas">not</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar traduções alternativas">convinced that such a</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar traduções alternativas">demonstration</span> <span title="Clique para mostrar traduções alternativas">of the usefulness."<br>
<br>I supposed it was Finnish, but I assume the software could've done that. Even though it's just a few words, the translation has the potential for misunderstandings. <br>Still, it's better than nothing!<br>
<br>Best,<br>Ivar<br></span></span><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div class="h5">On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 09:54, Ginger Paque <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gpaque@gmail.com" target="_blank">gpaque@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<font face="Arial">Exactly, Tapani--I have no idea what you said,
but your point is clear :)<br>
<br>
During WSIS, I was a member of the WFUNA (World Federation of
United Nations Associations) Task Force on WSIS. Our home working
languages were Danish, Spanish, Urdu, and six others, and no one
did their IG/WSIS work at home in English. BUT we did all of our
TF work in English, because it was the only possible way for us
communicate.<br>
<br>
That was years ago. Translation services have improved. What
practical steps can we take for language inclusion? <br>
Can we include some kind of translation as suggested by
Rui/Carlos?<br>
Should we have different threads in different languages?<br>
Should the subject line indicate the language as well as the
topic?<br>
<br>
Has anyone found a working solution on another list? <br>
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On 6/8/2011 7:45 AM, Tapani Tarvainen wrote:
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<pre>On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 09:38:01AM -0300, Roxana Goldstein (<a href="mailto:goldstein.roxana@gmail.com" target="_blank">goldstein.roxana@gmail.com</a>) wrote:
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<pre>querida Ginger,
Si entiendo, pero si no hay debate en español, sólo pueden participar
aquellos que "dominan" el ingles´, no solo quienes lo manejan medianamente.
Y esto implica no sólo las reglas del idioma. sino sus modismos, sus
connotaciones y denotaciones, su cosmovisión.
El debate en otros idiomas en necesario y requiere soporte económico, de
recursos humanos, etc.
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</blockquote>
<pre>Näinhän se on, mutta vaikka minä ymmärränkin kohtuullisesti myös
espanjaa, en ole vakuuttunut tällaisen demonstraation hyödyllisyydestä.
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