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Hi there,<br>
<br>
There have been NO discussion as of now. The discussion will be held
in Geneva during the MAG meeting. MAGs members needs to prepare for
that meeting and DO their job. AKA: Read the 111 workshops approx.
descriptions and grade them as I explained in an email. Then, we
will be ready to combat any attempt to block any workshop based on
"dubious strategies", if there any. Happy to work with Marilia and
anyone else who wants to work with us.<br>
<br>
During the MAG consultation, we will discuss one by one each
workshop. I save a few workshops last year from merging thanks from
the feedback I get from Twitter and the IGF mailing list. Ginger
provides a lot of support to MAG members since she was monitoring
what the list was saying and send the feedback to MAG members so
they can act upon that. <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 5/12/11 6:46 AM, Marilia Maciel wrote:
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cite="mid:BANLkTikmrwW_QJPciZ5nkr_0v4OT8xSsfg@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Adam Peake <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ajp@glocom.ac.jp">ajp@glocom.ac.jp</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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Perhaps our MAG members could do something?<br>
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<div>It would be great to have an update about discussions in
the MAG. I have heard from MAG members about a month ago that
the Secretariat would like to discuss proposals in MAG mailing
list first, in order to arrive at the open consultations with
a draft list of selected proposals and suggestions to merge.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Did this discussion take place? If so, were the proposals
under "taking stocks" debated?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Marília </div>
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Adam</font>
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<div class="h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
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Hi,<br>
<br>
I think Louis explained the motivation for the merger
quite well.<br>
<br>
<br>
On 12 May 2011, at 03:25, Louis Pouzin (well) wrote:<br>
<br>
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0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
padding-left: 1ex;"> ICC/BASIS and ISOC just want to
snow the serious issues. A Sesame street kind of nice
talk. Don't merge.<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
Re; On 12 May 2011, at 08:59, Marilia Maciel wrote:<br>
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In any case, we should just be aware that if we do
not merge, other groups will probably try to impinge
us with the political burden of non-cooperation. We
cannot let this stick. There are always several IGF
workshops on NN, youth, etc. So why there can¹t be 2
or 3 workshops on IGF improvement?<br>
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From the vantage point of someone who has watched the
process for many years, I think this is an important
caution. The other protagonists, will be on chat
together and will be working to reinforce each others
comments, thus you will face a well spoken wall of
opposition. The civil society reps are often more
individualistic and are not as well coordinated as
supporting each others positions in rapid succession.<br>
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<br>
In every break, the private sector and the internet
community caucus and plan their strategies for the next
session. Often the civil society participants are more
involved in being upset at each other for one reason or
another.<br>
<br>
Or at least that is how it looked from my vantage point.<br>
<br>
My recommendation, coordinate and stick to your
positions. Consider that is is better to have you
workshop kicked out and protest than it is to have it
turned in regurgitated pabulum.<br>
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