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On Wednesday 11 May 2011 12:59 PM, William Drake wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Hi
Sorry to be late to the party on this, but before the consensus call starts can we just clarify a key piece?
On May 11, 2011, at 9:13 AM, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
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<pre wrap="">We therefore request you, and other G8 leaders, to make the eG8 Forum genuinely multistakeholder, following the model of the UN Internet Governance Forum (IGF).
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That model at present comprises peer-level annual dialogues that unlike G8 meetings do not entail the negotiation of recommendations/declarations etc. Is that what we're arguing the G8 should do? </pre>
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<font color="#000000">Hi Bill<br>
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A<font color="#000000">s Jeremy explains we refer to the eG8
meeting, which is supposed to be a consultative forum for
inputting into the formal G 8 meeting. And for me, IGF is nothing
if not a policy participation / consultation forum for global
Internet related policies. How do you see IGF, if not that?</font><br>
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<font color="#000000">The eG 8 website (
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.eg8forum.com/faq_EN.html">http://www.eg8forum.com/faq_EN.html</a> ) says</font><br>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">"The Forum is a platform providing
major
stakeholders in the digital economy a chance to debate prior to
the
Deauville summit....... The G8 Heads of State and Government
meeting in Deauville will receive the inputs from the e-G8 Forum’s
proceedings."<br>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Looks very much that IGF model should
be applicable here.<br>
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<pre wrap="">Or is the argument that there should be open peer-level participation in the negotiation of "results."? If that's the goals then it would seem more consistent to mention participation in ICANN as the model, although probably that'd cause indigestion in some circles. </pre>
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<font color="#000000">Since I am one of those whose digestive juices
are going to be ill served by any such suggestion, can you please
explain how ICANN can be a model for the kind of Internet policy
issues that are on the agenda of eG8. ICANN's model seems to me
made only for dealing with somewhat narrow technical issues, or
thereabout. And it hardly does very well - democratic
participation wise, even in dealing with those issues. Since you
clearly suggest that ICANN model could likely be suggested in the
present case, I am very interesting to know how would this model
work for the kind of issues that eG8 is proposing to look into.
For this purpose pl see the quotes below from eG8 fact sheet, also
enclosed.<br>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;" align="LEFT"><font color="#000000"
face="RZBASP+ArialMT, sans-serif"><font size="2"><font
style="font-size: 11pt;" size="2">The
</font><font face="POJKBP+Arial-BoldMT, sans-serif"><font
style="font-size: 11pt;" size="2">e-G8
Forum </font></font><font style="font-size: 11pt;"
size="2">will address
how traditional sectors are transforming under the
influence of
information technologies and communication. It will
examine how the
digital economy generates innovation, particularly in the
fields of
education, training and life-long learning. Other key
subjects will
include intellectual property in the digital era, the
growth of
e-commerce and the new mobile Internet revolution.</font></font></font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;" align="LEFT"><font color="#000000"
face="RZBASP+ArialMT, sans-serif"><font style="font-size:
11pt;" size="2">The
</font></font><font color="#000000" face="POJKBP+Arial-BoldMT,
sans-serif"><font style="font-size: 11pt;" size="2">e-G8
Forum </font></font><font color="#000000"
face="RZBASP+ArialMT, sans-serif"><font style="font-size:
11pt;" size="2">will
also address social and philosophical issues inherent in the
digital
ecosystem: economically, the way in which companies function
at a
fundamental level is changing dramatically; culturally,
digital
technologies are transforming the publishing industry and
artistic
communities; and politically, citizens are empowered like
never
before, as the world witnessed with the recent revolutions
in the
Arab world. Finally, the nature of future Internet
developments will
be discussed.</font></font></p>
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<font color="#000000">I am genuinely interested if you can suggest,
even at a theoretical level, how can the ICANN model even begin
dealing with these issues.<br>
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Parminder </font><br>
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<pre wrap="">Either way, this seems like the big pay-off sentence of the message, so one could argue it should be clearer on what we'er asking for, no?
Best,
Bill____________________________________________________________
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