Foo<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Fouad Bajwa <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fouadbajwa@gmail.com">fouadbajwa@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
It would be advisable that for once, this workshop should only give the developing world perspective.</blockquote><div><br><br>Is there such a thing?<br><br>I've never seen one. Here in Africa, it's just not on many agendas.<br>
<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> What I have felt on NN issues is lobbies fighting with each other while keeping out the developing world segment that will be truly affected by the Internet. <div>
<br></div><div>I want to add the capacity building element here. I don't see a single activity on the ground where a certain NN advocacy group has gone to regulators to educate them on NN related issues and how to/not to develop a stand on the issue.</div>
</blockquote><div><br><br>I'm all about capacity building, so this could be a useful project.<br><br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div> The fact remains that the larger portion of Internet and Web resources remain in the developed West and the developing east and south are usually outside the picture. </div></blockquote><div><br><br>What resources are you talking about, and how does this impact NN?<br>
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<div><br></div><div>Not having the knowledge nor capacity leads regulators to regulate the Internet in such a way that is not beneficial for their citizenry and in the long run not at all beneficial for the governments themselves because they cap themselves from providing their social and economic setup the opportunity that a neutral network would actually offer.</div>
</blockquote><div><br><br>Can you give examples?<br><br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div> This is a whole different debate. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Within the NN debate I am yet to see corporations from the developing world step into the discussion or fight on issues pertaining to the topic at any global Internet discussion forum so the issue remains, do we want to bring in those that continue to blur the NN debate and give them the opportunity to continue to do so or should we now move the whole NN discussion towards the developing countries.</div>
</blockquote><div><br><br>I can't parse this. I don't know who is guilty of blurring (except anti-NN lobbies), which may be who you mean. What is confusing is that you say that there is a lack of capacity in the developing world on the one hand, yet want to include only them? How is "the blind leading the blind" useful? NB this is not a slur or denigration of the visually impaired, rather "a metaphor used in antiquity" <br>
<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_blind_leading_the_blind">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_blind_leading_the_blind</a><br><br>I particularity like this one:<br><br>"Abiding in the midst of ignorance, thinking themselves wise and learned,
fools go aimlessly hither and thither, like blind led by the blind. "<br><br>from<br><br><a href="http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/67150.html">http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/67150.html</a><br><br><br></div></div>
<br>-- <br>Cheers,<br><br>McTim<br>"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel<br>