As I see it, discussing net neutrality includes making en effort to understand this "absence of infinite bandwidth", e.g. the allegation of scarcity. Is such scarcity an inescapable fact or the result of an elaborate planning by big Telcos?<br>
<br>I daresay there's at least one aspect of organizing this workshop that everyone who manifested themselves so far seems to agree upon: we need a debater with profound knowledge of the American experience with net neutrality, especially of the legal aspects. <br>
The discussion in the list on the FCC's current stance on this subject illustrates this need.<br><br>Also, but much less important to the issue at point right now: If you're going to mention advances in different countries that relate to this issue, Chile's should be mentioned in addition or instead of Brazil's - they actually enacted a law on net neutrality, we're still working with a rough draft that so far (unfortunately) has no prospect of being approved in Congress and in order to see the light of day.<br>
<br> Best, Ivar<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 15:10, Roland Perry <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:roland@internetpolicyagency.com">roland@internetpolicyagency.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">In message <<a href="mailto:4F2D2352-9964-40E5-A4C4-7DB62C476A7C@post.harvard.edu" target="_blank">4F2D2352-9964-40E5-A4C4-7DB62C476A7C@post.harvard.edu</a>>, at 12:38:35 on Sun, 10 Apr 2011, David Allen <<a href="mailto:David_Allen_AB63@post.harvard.edu" target="_blank">David_Allen_AB63@post.harvard.edu</a>> writes<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="im"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
In the current Internet model it's simply not possible for a content provider in UK to pay a consumer-eyeballs network in Pakistan to deliver its content preferentially (which includes paying not to restrict it).<br>
<br>
And when the "content provider" is the individual Internet citizen, wanting his blog to be transmitted everywhere, or wanting the files he's sharing by P2P to be received unhindered anywhere in the world, there's simply nothing approaching a mechanism for him to pay for that.<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div><div class="im">
Following that logic: It becomes even more important - for international receipt of material originated elsewhere - that _national_ NN regimes are 'in the public interest.'<br>
</div></blockquote>
<br>
In the absence of infinite bandwidth within the country, and to the country, it may be in the "National Interest" to use what bandwidth you have to enable the majority of users to have a satisfactory experience.<br>
<br>
In an attempt to illustrate what I mean, it's not unknown for email systems to put limits on the size of attachments, to perhaps 8MB, in order to share the system's resources equitably between users. There's an implication that either (a) 8MB is enough to express anything which should be circulated as an email or (b) that if you want to use email as a file-transfer protocol, there's a limit to the file size it's acceptable to attach.<br>
<br>
Therefore email of that kind is not "network neutral" because of that arbitrary limit. And nor is there any money attached to each email to assist in building infrastructure for its delivery.<br>
<br>
Similar arguments can be made for other protocols (such as HTTP, NNTP), but email is a good one to start with because many people will be familiar with this particular restriction, and indeed many who have been on the receiving end of bloated attachments may actually welcome it.<br>
-- <br><font color="#888888">
Roland Perry</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
____________________________________________________________<br>
You received this message as a subscriber on the list:<br>
<a href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a><br>
To be removed from the list, visit:<br>
<a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing" target="_blank">http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing</a><br>
<br>
For all other list information and functions, see:<br>
<a href="http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance" target="_blank">http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance</a><br>
To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:<br>
<a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/" target="_blank">http://www.igcaucus.org/</a><br>
<br>
Translate this email: <a href="http://translate.google.com/translate_t" target="_blank">http://translate.google.com/translate_t</a><br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br>