Dear All,<br><br>In my opinion, IGC may build a compendium of what maps are available, and present to the workshop a proposal in alpha state (if I take software versions) to continue refining such map.<br><br>In the workshop, it could be discussed the features of the map itself, its content and its future development. I think that establishing an annual process to update such map and make it available to the public - probably electronically, like one does for ISO 9001, will be very useful.<br>
<br>Having the workshop discussing without a document, may produce good ideas on the features of an eventual map, but could limit real progress.<br><br>I see more advantages on having a proposed map on alpha version to present in Nairobi even if the proposed map needs to be remade from zero for 2012, which also happens with software.<br>
<br>Best,<br><br>Miguel<br><br>Disclaimer<br>My ideas are those of my own and does not represent any position of my employer or any other institution<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 7:49 AM, Norbert Bollow <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nb@bollow.ch">nb@bollow.ch</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="im">Roland Perry <<a href="mailto:roland@internetpolicyagency.com">roland@internetpolicyagency.com</a>> wrote:<br>
</div><div class="im">> >> Would you, for example, include the Council of Europe on account of the<br>
> >> Budapest Convention which has impacts upon network operators to be<br>
> >> slightly more "law enforcement friendly" than otherwise?<br>
</div><div class="im">> >Given that EDRi, the European Digital Rights organization that<br>
> >cares deeply about these kinds of issues from a human rights<br>
> >perspective, has taken the trouble of becoming a formal Observer at<br>
> >CoE and sending someone to participate at meetings (at least this<br>
> >was the case a few years ago, I'm not sure about the current status)<br>
> >I would expect the result to be that the CoE should definitely be<br>
> >included on the map.<br>
><br>
> I agree with that analysis. My real point here is to ask when will this<br>
> workshop be analysing all the other potential organisations?<br>
><br>
> Will the workshop be presenting for discussion a paper that's almost<br>
> complete, or is it the start of the process of writing such a paper?<br>
<br>
</div>Since the whole point of doing this as at the IGF is to (try<br>
to) get broad multistakeholder buy-in for the resulting living<br>
document, in the sense of all kinds of stakeholders from all<br>
over the world viewing it as "*our* map document" (rather than<br>
some author's) and contributing to making it reasonably complete<br>
and keeping it up-to-date, I don't think that there are significant<br>
limits on what can be done in advance of the workshop. It's of<br>
course desirable to come prepared with knowledge of the various<br>
pre-existing documents with similar objectives that have been<br>
compiled from various narrower perspectives, and to come with<br>
some ideas for various options on how the resulting "map of<br>
internet governance" document could be structured and organized.<br>
<br>
The time in Nairobi should IMO to a significant part be discussion<br>
about how the map document should be designed to make it optimally<br>
useful to all the various stakeholder groups, internationally, and<br>
this not only with regard to its content but also with regard to<br>
the "human networking" impact of the process of creating the<br>
document and keeping it up to date.<br>
<br>
In other words, to me this proposal is about creating something<br>
new (building on everything that has been done in the field already),<br>
not about promoting something that I'd have done already.<br>
<br>
Greetings,<br>
<font color="#888888">Norbert<br>
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