my apologies did'nt read the initial emails<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:13 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com">salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Check out the second paragraph of the article in this link: <a href="http://www.dmwmedia.com/news/2011/02/01/us-seizes-domain-spainbased-sports-linking-site-rojadirecta" target="_blank">http://www.dmwmedia.com/news/2011/02/01/us-seizes-domain-spainbased-sports-linking-site-rojadirecta</a></div>
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<div>"<em>Similar to the dozens of sites seized by the U.S. Dept. of Homeland Security's Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) unit last November, Rojadirecta.org now features a notice from ICE that the site was seized for copyright-related violations</em>. "<br>
<br>PS. I got this article from googling Rojadirecta, from JFC's email exchange.<br></div>
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<div class="h5">On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 9:59 PM, parminder <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" target="_blank">parminder@itforchange.net</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div>
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<div text="#333333" bgcolor="#ffffff"><font face="sans-serif">Further to below, Verisign admitted that the seizure action was done through them (this is about the old case mentioned in my email). quoting from below referred item. <br>
<br>So, Adam, changing the registrar in the present case under discussion would simply not have helped. So lets focus on the real problem, and a possible solution to it. <br><br></font>
<blockquote>VeriSign sent this statement:
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<p>VeriSign received sealed court orders directing certain actions to be taken with respect to specific domain names, and took appropriate actions. Because the orders are sealed, further questions should be directed to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security.</p>
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<blockquote type="cite"><br>So, generic TLD are not really international, they are limited to US <br>corporations? <br></blockquote><br><br>No, it is the location of the registrar. In Rojadirecta's case seems it was GoDaddy a U.S. company. Rojadirecta should have transferred their name away from a US company as soon as they had trouble. <br>
<br>Adam <br></blockquote><br>Are you sure? Similar seizures earlier were done from the registry operator level who runs the generic tld, verisign in that case<br><br>see quote from <a href="http://domainincite.com/icann-had-no-role-in-seizing-torrent-domains/" target="_blank">http://domainincite.com/icann-had-no-role-in-seizing-torrent-domains/</a> <br>
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<blockquote>Ben Butler, Go Daddy’s director of network abuse, has just provided me with the following statement, via a spokesperson:
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<p>It appears the domain names were locked directly by VeriSign. Go Daddy has not received any law enforcement inquiries or court orders concerning the suspension of the domains in question.</p>
<p>Go Daddy has not been contacted by ICE or DHS on the domain names in question.</p></blockquote><br></blockquote>The point is ICANN, tld operators and many top registrars all are subject to US jurisdiction and will HAVE to to what US Laws seeks of them.... So the question of an international treaty raised by Stephane. parminder <br>
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