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<font face="Arial">Marilia</font>: 'Totally agree, Graciela.
Sometimes it seems that workshop organizers are doing a favor in
organizing workshops, therefore they should not be let down and face
the refusal of their workshop proposals.'<br>
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Ginger says: Marilia, I agree that we should recognize that workshop
organizers do a lot of hard work as volunteers. However, this fact
should be separated from the fact that workshop proposals should be
reviewed to make sure they meet quality, time constraints, and other
organizational factors. And of course merging of workshops should be
carefully considered and only done when appropriate.<br>
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I think these are two separate issues, both of which merit
attention. Thanks for all your work.<br>
Ginger<br>
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On 1/26/2011 3:13 PM, Marilia Maciel wrote:
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cite="mid:AANLkTi=q2qwyb3mZFOPqEDYxwwkEfTUJpLFTF+q6afO2@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">Totally agree, Graciela. Sometimes it seems that
workshop organizers are doing a favor in organizing workshops,
therefore they should not be let down and face the refusal of
their workshop proposals. This has led to the merge of workshops
that had very little in common and ended up with ten, twelve
spekers that could talk during 5 minutes. This is totally
contraproducive.<br>
<br>
There is no favor in organizing workshops. It is an opportunity to
promote meaningful debate, that should be enough. It is also a
responsibility, and workshop organizers need to be efficient and
accountable.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Marília<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Graciela
Selaimen <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Thanks for the feedback, Jeannette. I wasn't in Vilnius,
unfortunately.<br>
Your comment on the disappointment with the workshops' reports
makes me think that it's important to reflect not only how
workshops are organized but also why they are held. Perhaps
it's time to think of a way to give more meaning to workshops
in the IGF and to expect more commitment from workshop
organizers in formulating concrete messages as an outcome of
these events - not only formal, bureaucratic reports.<br>
<br>
graciela<br>
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Em 1/26/11 3:51 PM, Jeanette Hofmann escreveu:
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Am 26.01.2011 13:18, schrieb Graciela Selaimen:<br>
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Hi, Wolfganfg and all,<br>
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I am aware that this will trigger a debate about the
nomination of<br>
chairs or rapporteurs. However the message from a
workshop could be<br>
"one group says so and the other group says so". The
message in this<br>
case would be: This is an important issue, but there
is no agreement.<br>
And if you have 60 workshops you would have 60
rapporteurs (with about<br>
150 messages) which guarantees to a certain degree
diversity and a<br>
fair reflection of all positions.<br>
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This is why I think it would be interesting to have
the workshops in the<br>
two first days of the meeting. Their messages could be
the main input<br>
for the plenary sessions; the moderators of the main
sessions would have<br>
to work together with rapporteurs of the workshops in
order to focus the<br>
sessions on the presentation and discussion of the
messages and this<br>
would make these sessions really linked to the
workshops - something<br>
that we've been highlighting as desirable for years...<br>
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That is exactly what we did at the Vilnius meeting. For
critical Internet resources, workshops were scheduled
for the first day so that they would take place before
the main session. Personally, I didn't find the result
convincing. So far, our experience with reporting from
workshop have been somewhat disappointing. I don't know
exactly why. Perhaps the summaries lacked a bit of the
excitement we were hoping for :-)<br>
<br>
jeanette<br>
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my 2 cents,<br>
<br>
graciela<br>
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