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<font face="Arial">Thanks for this comment, Lee. While I understand
that the co-coordinators must be careful to find balance between
efficiency and discussion, as a recent co-coordinator, I can
confirm that co-coordinators and the list have been aware of and
discussing the need for imposing some kind of 'order' on the
membership organization strategy for years.<br>
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We have asked for suggestions and volunteers repeatedly. So while
each of us has our own style (I would use the word 'readers'
rather than 'lurkers', for example) I am glad that Jeremy and
Izumi have taken this action at a time when there is no election
pending, and changes can be made and modified without pressure. <br>
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I urge anyone with concerns to continue to raise them in
discussion, so that Jeremy and Izumi can make the changes the
group considers necessary. Jeremy is responding to concerns, but
cannot please us if we do not tell him what we want. Thanks to
everyone who has raised (and will raise) these questions so they
can be resolved before any election, charter, or other vote comes
up.<br>
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Best wishes for 2011,<br>
Ginger<br>
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On 1/5/2011 7:13 AM, Lee W McKnight wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Don,
And thanks Jeremy.
First, Don, your and my gray hair is showing if we speak of 'PDAs' - which is so 90s - I am sure you meant to say 'tablets' as on display in abundance at CES this week. But point take,n whatever the form factor for 'mobile Internet devices' as Intel tried to get us all to call them a couple years back, they remain bandwidth constrained. Anyway.
Second, there had been advance discussion and I would say consensus on the need for upgrading list maintenance and the website, which Jeremy had discussed on the list and there was general acceptance to. If one checks the archives. So I believe it was only a question of Jeremy not wishing to disturb everyone's holidays with a flood of messages, as he went about the work, and not anything more than that. Right Jeremy? : )
anyway, thanks Jeremy for taking the time over the holidays
Lee
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From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:governance-request@lists.cpsr.org">governance-request@lists.cpsr.org</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:governance-request@lists.cpsr.org">governance-request@lists.cpsr.org</a>] On Behalf Of Don Cameron [<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:dg_cameron@bigpond.com">dg_cameron@bigpond.com</a>]
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To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a>; 'Jeremy Malcolm'
Subject: RE: [governance] New membership database: choose your own username
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<pre wrap="">Also I overlooked that many Internet old timers would prefer to maintain the ability to subscribe by email (unsubscribing by email had not been affected). That change has since been reversed.
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Thanks Jeremy,
I feel somewhat elevated in status... from a lurker to an Internet Old Timer - might be worth mentioning my children also tend to sub to lists via list-serv commands, although this is possibly my influence on them ☺
As with others I agree up to a point with the underlying premise of simplifying list and web subscriptions providing it doesn’t come at the expense of access and/or simplicity (to either) – the point raised by Norbet is salient not only for Cambodia, it also applies to the millions who interact online with PDA’s and mobiles where email is a much simpler medium to use than trying to access a web site on a 2” screen. Unfortunately the promoted/implemented changes do read like a fait accompli given the depths of concern expressed by a number of people.
Pardon my ignorance - but I do not understand who authorised these changes – isn’t the decision-making process of this group one of lazy consensus ala the FOSS/Apache model where changes are discussed prior to implementation? Are all the changes now reversed? It would be great if we could rewind and discuss the need and options – I’m sure there is an abundance of list management expertise on here.
Don
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