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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Fascinating how questions of good list governance stem from the very
list designed to promote good Internet governance through participatory
contribution. If nothing else this is surely a trigger for increased participation
here! (or for the lurkers to arise from the woodwork as it were :-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I also queried use of the term ‘lurker’ because of context
and association (with defunct accounts etc.). My apologies if this misunderstood,
however the association was probably inappropriate. I’m still not sure
the term is being used in proper context in conversation when suggesting that ‘lurkers’
should be separated from ‘voter-members’.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Until this furore erupted I was a lurker on this list, and would
probably have remained as such had these dramatic changes not been proposed
(implemented without consensus?) – however being a lurker does not mean I
fail to identify with and associate with civil society, nor do I withdraw my right
to vote (as a member voter) should I so choose – a right is not an
obligation. I lurk because I choose to lurk. I will vote if I choose to vote.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Why is a lurker deemed different from a voter?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Perhaps what is really intended is to identify and define people
who do not identify as civil society members? (some of whom may lurk; some of
whom may not)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I think care needs to be taken that rights are not removed from
people through these actions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Don<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> governance-request@lists.cpsr.org
[mailto:governance-request@lists.cpsr.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Deirdre Williams<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 4 January 2011 10:40 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> governance@lists.cpsr.org; Jeremy Malcolm<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [governance] New membership database: choose your own
username<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On 4 January 2011 02:47, Jeremy Malcolm <<a
href="mailto:jeremy@ciroap.org">jeremy@ciroap.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On 04/01/2011, at 2:28 PM, Avri
Doria wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>> And with the way you are
terming those who participate in the list passively as lurkers<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>That is a value-neutral term, as far as I use it. But
I've apologised if anyone was offended by use of that term.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>"We are doing this because, until now,
there has been no proper IGC membership list, other than the list of
subscribers to the governance mailing list (which contains many non-member
lurkers, duplicate subscriptions and some defunct accounts)."</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>The intention of my comment at least was not that I found
the term itself offensive, but that in the context that was used (see above)
the suggestion appeared to be that "lurkers" were undesirable and
should be removed from the list of subscribers - since they were included in a
list with "duplicate subscriptions" and "defunct accounts".
Also that "lurkers", by definition, were not members. Since these
views seem to disagree fundamentally with my understanding of the way the
Internet Governance Caucus is supposed to work I felt that it was necessary to
challenge them.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I apologise in turn if I misunderstood your intention. :-)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Deirdre<o:p></o:p></p>
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