Izumi,<div><br></div><div>not sure what the Egyptian proposal is.</div><div><br></div><div>If this means that CSTD (in its governmental format) has to agree on the report, I think it is not in contradiction with the ECOSOC/UNGA resolutions :</div>
<div> </div><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: italic; ">(The WG) would make recommendations, as appropriate, to the Commission at its fourteenth session in 2011, in a report that would constitute an input from the Commission to the General Assembly, through the Economic and Social Council, should the mandate of the Internet Governance Forum be extended.</span></blockquote>
<div><p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><i><br></i></span></font></p>
<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">The text seem to imply that the report is just forwarded by the CSTD to the ECOSOC. If a compromise is to allow the CSTD to formally endorse the report before it is sent, this could be acceptable. </span></font></p>
<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><br></span></font></p>
<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">BUT - and this is a great but - this does not mean that the CSTD should be allowed to cherry-pick some parts and leave others, or worse, that some direct editing could be made to change the content before the report is forwarded. </span></font></p>
<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><br></span></font></p>
<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">Having the CSTD - in its intergovernmental format - voting yes or no on the report is potentially acceptable, but not editing. </span></font></p>
<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><br></span></font></p>
<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">In any case, not only can governments members of the WG make their voice heard during the drafting, but ultimately, governments will have the right to include what they want in the ECOSOC and UNGA ultimate resolutions, like they did with the WGIG report recommendations when they were integrated in the Tunis documents.</span></font></p>
<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><br></span></font></p>
<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">This is an opportunity to establish a fundamental principle of the multi-stakeholder approach : the difference between decision-shaping and decision-making : a MS group does not have final decision-making power; but any intergovernmental body it directly reports to should not have the power to pick and choose, but mainly to endorse or reject. </span></font></p>
<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><br></span></font></p>
<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">The outcome is afterwards food for thought in the next stages. </span></font></p>
<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><br></span></font></p>
<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">So, in this case, the Chair convenes a MS group. The group produces a report, that is aknowledged by the CSTD and forwarded - as is - to the ECOSOC and UNGA : the resolutions say "the report will constitute and input from CSTD" (ie there can be other inputs). CSTD can, on this basis, produce a draft resolution that incorporates all or parts of the report, but it is a separate process and the group report should be available, untouched, for the ECOSOC and UNGA discussions - even if the draft resolution only retains some elements. </span></font></p>
<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><br></span></font></p>
<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">My two cents. let's see what comes next. </span></font></p>
<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><br></span></font></p>
<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">Best</span></font></p>
<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><br></span></font></p>
<p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px 'Times New Roman'"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">B.</span></font></p>
</div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 4:48 PM, Izumi AIZU <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:aizu@anr.org">aizu@anr.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Austria<br>
I agree that nothing is defined until everything is defined.<br>
Second proposal – Egypt/Greece to discuss<br>
<br>
EU?<br>
“Pursue the rules and regulations” in French – it leads open to what<br>
is applied, but not violate these rules, or vaguer reference to these<br>
rules<br>
<br>
Council of Europe<br>
We have invested considerably to IGF.<br>
To have common platform bring stakeholders in equal footing<br>
<br>
<br>
IGC – called by Chair, even when I did not request for the floor.<br>
I mentioned equal amount of frustration is fine.<br>
Our colleagues were expressing some frustration, but the Chair’s<br>
proposal is in the good direction.<br>
<br>
Chair<br>
We ask India and ??? to come up with amendment to my proposal – in15 minutes.<br>
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