<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">It is all so absurd, we are spending the whole afternoon debating whether it's a working group of the CSTD, a working group of the chair, or an advisory group to the chair.<div><br></div><div>Exactly the kind of process one would want making decisions about the IGF.</div><div><br></div><div>What's especially amazing is some of the bald faced rhetorical games, like governments declaring there was consensus this morning that the chair is now departing from, when there clearly was no such consensus.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div>On Dec 17, 2010, at 3:57 PM, Bertrand de La Chapelle wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Izumi, <div><br></div><div>Chair seems to go in the right direction : Group OF the Chair, 15 non-governmental.</div><div><br></div><div>Still not precise regarding governmental participation. Cannot (and probably should not) be limited to host countries. In any case, Kenya should be included as upcoming host. </div>
<div><br></div><div>I guess that 10 govts (2 per geographic regions) plus the (6) hosts could be an ideal situation. Would make 16 govts, 15 non-govts and, I suppose, 3 to 5 intergovernmental organizations.</div><div><br>
</div><div>Let's see how it pans out. Still some fight ahead.</div><div><br></div><div>Best</div><div><br></div><div>Bertrand<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Izumi AIZU <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:aizu@anr.org" target="_blank">aizu@anr.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">3 times 5 = 15, plus 5 host countries = 20.<br>
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izumi<br>
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2010/12/17 Avri Doria <<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>>:<br>
<div><div></div><div>> Hi,<br>
><br>
> How many government members in the WG?<br>
><br>
> a.<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 17 Dec 2010, at 09:20, Izumi AIZU wrote:<br>
><br>
>> After Lunch<br>
>><br>
>> Chair<br>
>> Thank you for the fruitful, open and frank discussion this morning.<br>
>> As chair I listened carefully.<br>
>> Commonly agreed that all stakeholder should be inclusive for the WG.<br>
>> Proposal for consideration<br>
>><br>
>> We have 15 from Stakeholders plus International Organizations.<br>
>> From 15, 5 from Academic and Technical community<br>
>> 5 from Civil Society and 5 from the business group.<br>
>> The leadership of these organizations will be able to select<br>
>> representatives to join the member states of WG.<br>
>><br>
>> WG is going to be the advisory group to the chair,<br>
>> WG has the limited duration.<br>
>> WG work be approved or amended by CSTD.<br>
>> Now I invite members for the contribution and look for consensus.<br>
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