I have a problem anyway about "tangible outcomes" - I can feel Rui breathing down my neck :-)<div>I feel that the proliferation of national and regional IGFs is a HUGE outcome which can certainly be demonstrated and documented if not actually touched.</div>
<div>Also, as Ginger suggests, remote participation and the access it affords to the previously excluded.</div><div>Galvanising a huge chunk of the whole world into some type of action - holding national and regional meetings - in just 5 years, is something like finding Archimedes lever, and I think we should look at it like that.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Under #2 I wonder whether it would be possible to produce brief summary reports, in layman's language, WITHOUT ANY ACRONYMS, for dissemination to those who are currently "outsiders".</div>
<div>Also I wish we could think of a "sexy" approach to involve the print and broadcast media in spreading the word. A comic strip? A soap opera?</div><div><br></div><div>#3 I am from a developing country. Recently an NGO here had a problem for which it hired consultants. It then transpired that the same problem had been addressed by consultants 10 years ago, and the report, the recommendations, had sat on the shelf, unused, essentially "lost", for 10 years. Recommendations may be tangible but they are frequently seen as an end in themselves rather than being a plan for a "way forward". I am rather "anti" about recommendations, unless they are accompanied by some type of actual "implementation".</div>
<div><br></div><div>#4 para 2 there is an important "not" missing I think - <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; "> "have NOT yet gained sufficient level of work at IGF" </span></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">I like #6b and I LOVE #6e :-)</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">Thank you for making the draft</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;">Deirdre<br>
</span></font><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 13 November 2010 08:33, Ginger Paque <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gpaque@gmail.com">gpaque@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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<font face="Arial">I agree with McTim strongly on this...<br>
There is no reason to emphasize a 'negative' position on achieving
the assigned outcome.<br>
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In fact, I think it makes more sense to note that there have been
many have been tangible and intangible positive outcomes
directly/indirectly from the IGF process, beyond awareness-raising
and bringing IG issues to regional IGF meetings--what about the
emergence and development of the multistakeholder model? How about
the advances in remote participation, permitting greater inclusion
in global policy processes? What about the diffusion and
replication of best practices? <br>
<br>
The question doesn't ask about our frustration, it asks what we
consider the most important achievement. If we must point out the
frustration, should it not at least be balanced by appreciation
for \ the positive effects? At least we should answer the
question!<br>
<br>
Thanks for doing this work. Much appreciated. I am in the middle
of a workshop in Tobago, and have not reviewed carefully. I think
others should voice their positions as well.<br>
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On 11/12/2010 10:58 PM, McTim wrote:
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<pre>Pretty good reply overall.
I would strike "Yet we still have not seen real tangible outcome
directly out of IGF process."
As there are not supposed to be real tangible outcomes, are there??
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