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On Wednesday 10 November 2010 11:24 AM, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
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<div>On 10/11/2010, at 12:56 PM, parminder wrote:</div>
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<div text="#333333" bgcolor="#ffffff">Also I cannot see when giving
our statement on EC we can skirt all core
substantive issues and basically just say - 'whatever you do civil
society should be there'. That is all I really see said in this
statement. How , for instance, in an EC statement, at a crucial moment
where very substantive inputs on what EC means and how to take it
forward, are being sought, can we not mention what the whole world
outside (largely) strongly feels, in my opinion, ' that the US
supervisory role on CIR management is completely unacceptable to the
world community' and that this role should immediately be ceded to a
global body with multistakeholder representation. If we are not able to
muster enough political will to say this thing, which thing in fact got
said many times even around the WSIS, I cant be a party to this
regeressive non-statement.</div>
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<div>Simply because the statement is pitched at a higher level than
the specific cases of CIR and ACTA that you mention. But, in a hope to
get closer to something you would be satisfied with, will incorporate
these issues somehow into the next draft, hopefully tonight.</div>
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Jeremy, Not that simple. the CIR management regime issue was key to
both what happened at the WSIS and what is happening now in the
discussion on this list, whether explicit or not.... <br>
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And ACTA is mentioned not as 'an issue' but a symptom of the main
problem of the need for democratic global Internet related public
policy making processes (in non CIR areas as well as in CIR, but it is
helpful to understand them separately) that is the very rationale of
the EC process. This is to help elucidate the 'main issue' that needs
to be engaged with in an EC discussion. We are not engaging with the
rational and purpose of EC, and only saying if anything happens CS
should be there. Parminder <br>
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