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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:#1F497D'>We dealt with this issue at some length in the 2005 National
Research Council report. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:#1F497D'>Ever since 1996, people have been confusing the DNS, and the
demand for new domain names, with the demand for search and location services. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:#1F497D'>And ever since, they have been predicting (falsely) that the
demand for domain names would decline as search tools improved. Indeed, many were
hoping that all the sticky DNS policy issues would just go away as this
happened. It was wrong, wishful thinking.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:#1F497D'>Instead, there is continuing, long-term growth in second level
domains. The reason is simple. If Ian Peter is given a choice between an email
address that says <a href="mailto:ian.peter@user.isp.com">ian.peter@user.isp.com</a>
or <a href="mailto:ian@ianpeter.com">ian@ianpeter.com</a>, he will prefer the
latter. The same is true for millions of others. That means that we want our
websites and email addresses to have meaningful, accessible names. It has nothing
to do with searching for content. It has to do with identification and
memorization. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:#1F497D'>I will accede to your argument about new TLDs not being needed,
Ian, the day you give up ianpeter.com because anyone can find your website
using Google. ;-) <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Ian Peter
[mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 05, 2010 4:42 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rafik Dammak; governance@lists.cpsr.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [governance] It's Time to Stop ICANN's Top-Level Domain
(TLD)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Hi Rafik,<br>
<br>
Resource discovery is , simply, “being able to find things” on the Internet.<br>
<br>
The original reason for having domain names was that it was thought (correctly)
that it would be easier to remember the name of a site than the IP number of
the site (eg easier to remember berkeley.edu than </span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>199.133.223.253).
Thus the domain name system was born and a mechanism was needed to map all
internet addressable numbers to appropriate names. <br>
<br>
These days the domain name is becoming less and less relevant for this task.
People use search engines, directories and apps rather than directly using
names to find things. The awkwardness of the domain name system in providing
sensible resource discovery with the internet the size it is now (let alone
what is to come) has led a lot of people to look at other ways to do this.<br>
<br>
Ian Peter<br>
<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:
</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Rafik
Dammak <<a href="rafik.dammak@gmail.com">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Sat, 6 Nov 2010 05:05:05 +0900<br>
<b>To: </b><<a href="governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a>>,
Ian Peter <<a href="ian.peter@ianpeter.com">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Avri Doria <<a href="avri@psg.com">avri@psg.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [governance] It's Time to Stop ICANN's Top-Level Domain
(TLD)<br>
<br>
Hi Ian,<br>
<br>
you mentioned many times resource discovery, can you please clarify what you
mean by it? I am not sure that everybody here share the same definition.<br>
<br>
Rafik<br>
<br>
2010/11/6 Ian Peter <<a href="ian.peter@ianpeter.com">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Avri
wrote<br>
<br>
<br>
> It is all well and<br>
> good that you have a preference for maintaining the current restricted<br>
> incumbent market,<br>
<br>
<br>
Not at all, and IDNs are a case in point where expansion makes sense for as<br>
long as domain names maintain usefulness - but any attachment of exorbitant<br>
fees to IDNs to allow them to be established would be ridiculous.<br>
<br>
I'm simply pointing out, as others are, that endless expansion of domain<br>
name suffixes does nothing to aid resource discovery or improve internet<br>
governance.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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