<div dir="ltr">Hello,<div><br></div><div>I don't see why we should follow sequential flow strategy->working plan ->outreach vs parallel flow, I think that Izumi mentioned having facilitators in each group who ,I guess, are tasked to coordinate between the different groups permitting intercommunication between them. and task like outreach is loosely coupled to strategy (outreach should be permanent and not limited in time)<br>
<br></div><div>I agree with McTim about working in those different space that he mentioned, e.g W3C and IAB organize jointly a workshop about privacy a topic which interest many IGC members, how can we participate there? what about RIRs etc . but we need to explore what we can do there in regard of our resources.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I think a separate list make more sense and work more easy and smooth. the lists will be definitely public and open to everybody to join. for topic like strategy many threads will be probably started and having a defined list is more appropriate. the facilitators or leaders of each group should report to the whole list regularly and the co-coordinators will be present anyway.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Rafik</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/11/3 Marilia Maciel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mariliamaciel@gmail.com">mariliamaciel@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<p class="MsoNormal">Dear all,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal">I am sorry I missed the beginning of the discussion. Presidential
elections in Brazil (great outcome, by the way!) and a short trip right after
it have kept me away for some days. <br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal">After going through the thread, I would
like to make just a few quick comments:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal">1) <b>Strategy</b>: I
totally agree with the need for a broader scope, mentioned by McTim. Although
IGF is one of the main concerns, there are other important issues that need to
be taken into account in order to plan a solid and coherent strategy.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal">Although I am very glad to see many younger people
volunteering to be part of the “strategy” group (and I would like to volunteer
as well), this is a topic in which the views of more experienced people is
fundamental, so I hope it is implied that many of the known “faces” on the list
will be there as well!</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal">Regarding the <b>procedure
of the discussions</b> I just have one concern. Strategy is the heart of everything
we will be doing, it is the base for the working plan and the outreach (others
will be encouraged to join us depending on our positions). Because of the
importance of the topic, wouldn’t it be good to carry out this discussion here
on the IGC list? This would be positive for transparency and any interested
person would have the chance to jump in, lowering the barriers to enter the debate.
<span> </span>I have seen complicated discussions
taking place here on the list, and moderators have successfully organized them
in different threads. Separate lists could be created to other areas of discussion.
Just a though.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal">2) <b>Working plan:</b>
I believe the group involved in the working plan does not need to wait for a strategy
to be agreed upon. An important task that could start right now would be to
work on the document proposed by Wolfgang "Internet Governance 2015:
Priorities for Civil Society" (historical chapter, an overvierw about main
issues and institutions, etc.). Strategy will be added to this document as
rough consensus is achieved.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal">3) <b>Outreach:</b> I
agree that to start an effort of outreach, we need to have a clearer idea of
who we are and who is missing among us. Do we (or moderators) have an idea? Should we organize
a questionnaire, like the one proposed by Sivasubramanian?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal">Just to reinforce, I volunteer to work with strategy and I will assist in every way I can with outreach. We have developed a good network of contacts because of remote participation.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal">Best wishes,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Mar<span lang="PT-BR">ília</span></p><div><div></div><div class="h5">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Jeremy Malcolm <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jeremy@ciroap.org" target="_blank">jeremy@ciroap.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><div><div>On 03/11/2010, at 2:01 AM, shaila mistry wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span style="border-collapse:separate;font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;font-size:medium"><div>
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