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Dear all,<div><br></div><div>I agree with part of what Heather said, in summary that IGC cannot claim to represent neither the whole CS @ IGF, nor, a fortiori, the whole CS in general.</div><div>However, one should take into account the fact that the IGC, while being far from perfect - and, as someone who raised the point many times, I'm very comfortable saying so - is not simply one CSO like any other @ IGF. To start with, it includes people (and NGO representatives) with different views on IG, and in that sense it is very different from one single NGO with identified views and objectives.</div><div><br></div><div>CONGO is not an option, at least not without a serious discussion. Not only because of the reasons Lee provided (participation of individuals as well), but also because this would mean a change in the IGC, as well as the IGF functioning and especially the MAG's role. I don't know if this option was discussed inside the MAG already, but I really see this suggestion would constitute a radical political turn, which objectives would need to be clarified and discussed. But not now, we have to finalize the document first.</div><div><br></div><div>What we need to discuss is the possibility to set up a kind of "CS plenary", like we had during WSIS (and that worked pretty well), where all individuals, NGOs, other kind of CSO groups, and maybe their grouping into thematic caucuses can interact. But this, again, is a long term discussion, and our priority now is to finalize the document.</div><div><br></div><div>As for now, my opinion is that, following Jeremy's proposal below, we might change the wordings so that the document takes into account Heather's concern (which are very much valid) and at the same time doesn't radically downsize IGC feature, role and achievements to that of any NGO or CSO. Above all, the document shouldn't come at this step with any alternative, like CONGO or any other. There is no need to hurry in this document with a definitive architecture for CS representation at IGF. Let's be cautious here, let's leave the door open, while asking for some change.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Meryem</div><div><br><div><div>Le 7 oct. 10 à 05:20, Jeremy Malcolm a écrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><div>On 06/10/2010, at 11:58 PM, Heather Creech wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-CA" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">I want to raise concern about one specific point in the draft, which falls under question 2. This concerns the relationship between the IGC, civil society concerned with internet governance / the IGF, and civil society in general.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> <o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">The draft suggests that: "With its existing open, accountable, transparent and democratic processes, the Internet Governance Caucus could form the foundation of an appropriate body to select civil society MAG representatives, subject to appropriate criteria to ensure regional and gender balance and a diversity of viewpoints." It adds that this could also be achieved through an independent NomCom process. </div></div></div></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It was in anticipation of concerns such as yours that I worded it "could form the foundation of an appropriate body to select" rather than just "could select". I consider that this is a fair statement of an appropriate role for the IGC within a potentially broader civil society coalition, in that we have much greater expertise and interest in IG issues than >90% of the NGOs who are active in CONGO. But, please suggest specific wording that would further clarify the IGC's role.</div></div><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; 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