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<font face="DejaVu Serif">Jeremy thanks for this<br>
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style="font-weight: normal;"><b><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-weight: normal;"><b><b><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-weight: normal;"><b><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-weight: normal;"><b><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-weight: normal;">"We
also suggest that consideration be given to the principle of
subsidiarity as a guideline for the IGF's relationship with regional
IGFs. That is to say that a regional IGF will subsume all national
concerns in order to build a regional position, and global issues will
be predominantly the concern of the global IGF.</span></b></span></b></span></b></b></span></b></span></b></b>"<br>
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I am still opposed to mentioning the principle of subsidiarity, even if
you have removed 'national' and only retained 'regional'.<br>
<br>
This principle would mean nothing should be taken up and done by the
IGF which can 'effectively' (and the judgment of effectiveness will
remain open) be done by a regional IGF. One may say that since human
rights concern real human situation, and someone may add cultural
contexts as an issue to this, they are best taken up by national and
regional IGF and the global IGF only deals with issues which
specifically concern the whole world at once. <br>
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In any case, as you may know, many regional/ national IGFs are held by
bodies and group of actors who are self-appointed to do so.... Asian
IGF was held by a small group of Hong Kong based actors/ groups who
self-selected themselves to do so (which, as validly IT for Change and
some other Bangalore based organizations could possible have done, if,
alas, we had the money) , and even the US IGF I understand is held
largely by some industry groups. Do you want to dissipate the
legitimacy of the global IGF through yielding it to these efforts,
which often have questionable legitimacies?<br>
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On the question </font><b><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-weight: normal;"><b><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-weight: normal;"><b><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-weight: normal;"><b>6. How best to link with international
processes and institutions?</b></span></b></span></b></span></b><br>
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I think we need to propose ways beyond ensuring circulation of
information. We should ask for real policy related engagements, whereby
the IGF is able to give recs to these institutions in their area of
policy making competence, and these other institutions are encouraged
to bring policy issues on which they will like to have a larger debate/
dialogue to the IGF, and the IGF then reverts back on outcomes of the
discussion/ dialogue. I also read some such intention in the Tunis
Agenda para on IGF mandate.<br>
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Parminder <br>
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On Wednesday 06 October 2010 09:34 AM, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:C86E3226-6A9C-4940-A18A-29610291D744@ciroap.org"
type="cite">Please find below a second draft, incorporating comments
to date. I'm not sure what people would like to see added on
"outputs". I've just added a bit to the last question on this.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div><b>1. Has the work of the MAG been consistent with the mandate
set out in the Tunis Agenda and subsequent decisions?</b></div>
<div><b><br>
</b></div>
<div>The IGC broadly supports the continuation of a balanced
multistakeholder advisory group. In its current role, the MAG has
performed reasonably. However, the IGF now stands at a cross-roads
where it may be called upon to produce more tangible outputs. The
qualification of the MAG to steer the IGF through this challenging
phase of its evolution is less clear.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><b>
<div style="font-weight: normal; display: inline ! important;">We
would like the MAG to play an active role in any possible improvements
towards a greater outcome orientation that may be suggested by the
ongoing IGF improvement process. Since there is no other clear body or
structure in and of the IGF, any possible suggestions for improvements
like inter-sessional work, choosing of key issues for more focussed
work, working groups on issues, background papers etc will require the
MAG to play an important part.</div>
</b></div>
<div><b>
<div style="font-weight: normal; display: inline ! important;"><br>
</div>
</b></div>
<div>To ensure that the MAG remains effective in this new era, the
IGF may require more direct lines of accountability to its
constituencies, more balanced sectoral representation, and proactive
leadership. Reducing the size of the MAG might also improve its
effectiveness.</div>
<div><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><br>
</span></b></div>
<div><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;">Moreover,
MAG members should be encouraged to put ideas out for multistakeholder
comment and participation, in a variety of other institutions,
processes and fora, both online and offline. Opening up meetings of
the MAG to </span></b>observers, either face to face or remotely, could
also assist in making it more accessible and responsive to the broader
community.</div>
<div><b><br>
</b></div>
<div><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><b>2.
How best to nominate non governmental members for the MAG?</b></span></b></div>
<div><b><br>
</b></div>
<div><b>
<div style="font-weight: normal;">As the MAG takes on more
responsibility, it will also be necessary for it to become more
accountable. Part of this process may involve moving on from the <b>
<div style="font-weight: normal; display: inline ! important;"><b>
<div style="font-weight: normal; display: inline ! important;">existing
"black box" approach whereby the United Nations Secretary General
selects MAG members from a range of nominees put forward by various
parties, pursuant to selection criteria that are not published.</div>
</b></div>
</b></div>
<div style="font-weight: normal;"><br>
</div>
<div style="font-weight: normal;">An alternative approach that many
from civil society <b>
<div style="font-weight: normal; display: inline ! important;"><b>
<div style="font-weight: normal; display: inline ! important;">support</div>
</b></div>
</b><b>
<div style="font-weight: normal; display: inline ! important;"> is
the selection of MAG representatives through a bottom-up process driven
by the stakeholder groups. WIth its existing open, accountable,
transparent and democratic processes, the Internet Governance Caucus
could form the foundation of an appropriate body to select civil
society MAG representatives, subject to appropriate criteria to ensure
regional and gender balance and a diversity of viewpoints. This could
be done through an independent nominating committee, though there is
some division within civil society on that question.</div>
</b></div>
<div style="font-weight: normal;"><br>
</div>
<div style="font-weight: normal;"><b>
<div style="font-weight: normal; display: inline ! important;">Another
reform that might be considered is to rescind the special privileges
that representatives of intergovernmental organisations, and special
advisors to the chair, currently possess. If the MAG's processes are
opened to broader oversight by the community, such special privileges
would soon become redundant.</div>
</b></div>
<div style="font-weight: normal;"><b>
<div style="font-weight: normal; display: inline ! important;"><br>
</div>
</b></div>
</b></div>
<div><b>3. </b><b><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-weight: normal;"><b>How best to nominate the MAG Chair?</b></span></b></div>
<div><b><br>
</b></div>
<div><b>
<div style="font-weight: normal;">At present, a single UN-based Chair
is appointed by the UN Secretary-General. This may no longer be
appropriate if the MAG develops into a body whose members are
self-selected by the stakeholders. In that case, it could be that the
MAG should select its own chair or chairs, and for that position to
rotate between the stakeholder groups.</div>
<div style="font-weight: normal;"><br>
</div>
</b></div>
<div>In any case, this must not change the fundamental nature of the
role of the Chair, which is not to push a personal or stakeholder
agenda, but to facilitate the MAG's effective operation as a de facto
multi-stakeholder bureau for the IGF that is responsible for
facilitating the fulfilment of the mandate in the Tunis Agenda.</div>
<div><b><br>
</b></div>
<div><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><b>4.
How best to organize open consultations?</b></span></b></div>
<div><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><b><br>
</b></span></b></div>
<div>There is merit in regarding the open consultation meetings not
as meetings held in Geneva, with provision for remote participation
from around the world, but as meetings that are held online, with
provision for some participants to attend in person at a hub in Geneva,
or at other hubs. Indeed, the IGF meetings themselves could come to be
considered in the same terms.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Online meetings are most effective when provision is made for
participation both synchronously (ie. in real time) and asynchronously
(ie. through comments and discussions that are contributed over an
extended period through blogs, Twitter, mailing lists, Facebook and so
on).</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>It is somewhat anachronistic that the IGF at large does not
utilise an electronic mailing list for discussions, and that other
means of asynchronous participation are not widely promoted for use by
IGF participants as means of contributing to open consultations. In
particular, MAG members do not tend to contribute in that capacity to
online discussions outside of their closed mailing list, which limits
the profile and accessibility of the MAG and the IGF as a whole.</div>
<div><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><b><br>
</b></span></b></div>
<div><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><b><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><b>5. How best
to link with regional meetings?</b></span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-weight: normal;"><br>
</span></b></span></b></div>
<div><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><b><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><b><br>
</b></span></b></span></b></div>
<div><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><b><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><b>
<div style="font-weight: normal;"><b><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-weight: normal;"><b><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-weight: normal;"><b>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;">The
regional IGF meetings have the potential to bring the multi-stakeholder
model of Internet governance to a much broader community of Internet
users and citizens, but at the same time we must be careful to ensure
that these meetings meet the same basic process criteria as the IGF
itself, including adequate participation by </span><b><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><b><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><b>
<div style="font-weight: normal; display: inline ! important;"><b><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><b><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><b>
<div style="display: inline ! important;"><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><b><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><b><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><b>
<div style="font-weight: normal; display: inline ! important;"><b><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><b><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><b>
<div style="display: inline ! important;"><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;">civil society at
all levels</span></div>
</b></span></b></span></b></div>
</b></span></b></span></b></span></div>
</b></span></b></span></b></div>
</b></span></b></span></b><b><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-weight: normal;"><b><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-weight: normal;"><b>
<div style="font-weight: normal; display: inline ! important;"><b><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><b><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><b>
<div style="display: inline ! important;"><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;">.</span></div>
</b></span></b></span></b></div>
</b></span></b></span></b></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;">In
this context, civil society has less capacity to contribute to
governance processes than governmental and private sector groups, due
to funding constraints and its reliance on voluntary labour. This may
require that additional efforts be made (and funded where appropriate)
to ensure that a plurality of civil society voices are heard in
Internet governance processes.</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;">We
also suggest that consideration be given to the principle of
subsidiarity as a guideline for the IGF's relationship with regional
IGFs. That is to say that a regional IGF will subsume all national
concerns in order to build a regional position, and global issues will
be predominantly the concern of the global IGF.</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><br>
</span></div>
</b></span></b></span></b></div>
</b></span></b></span></b></div>
<div><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><b><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><b><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><b>6. How best
to link with international processes and institutions?</b></span></b></span></b></span></b></div>
<div><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><b><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"><b><br>
</b></span></b></span></b></div>
<div><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"></span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;">Just as at the
Vilnius IGF meeting online moderators helped to bridge between online
and offline discussions, so too there could be rapporteurs whose job it
would be to summarise relevant discussions at the IGF and to forward
them to external institutions, and to act as a conduit for feedback
from those institutions.</span>
<div style="font-weight: normal;"><br>
</div>
<div style="font-weight: normal;">Ideally these summaries would
include both main sessions and workshops, since much of the valuable
discussion at the IGF takes place in the latter. Alternatively, they
could be limited to the main sessions provided that a better mechanism
for feeding the output of workshops back into main sessions is realised.</div>
</b></div>
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