<font color="#333333"><font size="2"><font face="verdana,sans-serif"><div>Sir Tim Berners-Lee spoke at the 350th Anniversary of the founding of the Royal Society and voiced that "<span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 18px; "> right to freedom as enshrined in Magna Carta are as relevant and important today as they were back in 1215 when the barons forced King John to sign the document - or else!"</span></div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Sivasubramanian M <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:isolatedn@gmail.com">isolatedn@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<font color="#333333" face="verdana, sans-serif">Dear Bill Drake,</font><div><font color="#333333" face="verdana, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font color="#333333" face="verdana, sans-serif">Why don't we make this real? What if CoE actually elevates it to the status of a draft document, and works its way around to make this a 'draft treaty'? If that happens, it would be good work, very, very good work and good governance: </font><span style="font-family:'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(51, 51, 51)">Governments taking initiatives to protect the Internet from Governments.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(51, 51, 51)"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(51, 51, 51)">To quote from the artiile, "</span><span style="font-family:'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(51, 51, 51)">The draft international law has been compared to the 1967 Outer Space Treaty, which sought to prevent space exploration being pursued for anything less than the benefit of all human kind. The Internet Treaty would similarly seek to preserve the Internet as a global system of free communication that transcends national borders"</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(51, 51, 51)"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(51, 51, 51)">If the Council of Europe, together with other like minded European organizations works on a document similar to the Outer Space Treaty, it would be giant step towards good governance.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(51, 51, 51)"><br></span></div><font color="#888888"><div><span style="font-family:'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(51, 51, 51)">Sivasubramanian M</span></div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:41 PM, William Drake <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch" target="_blank">william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Still more confused and clueless reportage on IG….<br>
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The author gets hold of a concept paper from a Vilnius workshop in which Wolfgang, Rolf and a few other people put forward for discussion some guiding principles concerning cross-border flows and mutual obligations between states they hope could someday fit into a possible COE convention (FWIW, having moderated the ws and been part of the dialogue around this for awhile, IMHO this seems unlikely to go anywhere without significant changes, and maybe not even then). Then he declares the paper is a "draft treaty" that has been "proposed by Europe." Then he proceeds to misconstrue what the thing would do and concludes it "will effectively create a world government of the Internet." These points he supports with extended quotes of other people he ran into Vilnius who were actually talking about entirely different matters...Europe, states, the Internet, regulation…it's all the same thing, I guess.<br>
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Should get him a lot of Google hits though, which presumably will be welcome to a freelance journalist. "As long as they spell my name right…"<br>
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Bill<br>
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On Sep 22, 2010, at 4:59 AM, Lee W McKnight wrote:<br>
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> Don't know about Vilnius.<br>
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> Several of us were talking about a an Internet treaty or framework convention at earlier IGF's and on this list.<br>
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> But we were told that was impossibly radical/might upset some of the powers that be.<br>
> ________________________________________<br>
> From: Louis Pouzin [<a href="mailto:pouzin@well.com" target="_blank">pouzin@well.com</a>]<br>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 10:34 PM<br>
> To: IGF Governance<br>
> Subject: [governance] International Internet Treaty proposed by Europe<br>
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> On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 11:14:33 -0700, Sylvia Caras wrote:<br>
>> <a href="http://www.thinq.co.uk/2010/9/20/international-internet-treaty-proposed-europe/" target="_blank">http://www.thinq.co.uk/2010/9/20/international-internet-treaty-proposed-europe/</a><br>
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> Hi,<br>
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> Was this proposal announced or presented in an IGF session in Vilnius ? by whom ?<br>
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