I'd like to think Parminder and Danny have spoken my words about the CS closing session speech. Thank you both, Jeremy and Ginger, for the good work.<div><br></div><div>McTim: that is a nit, indeed.... ;) In fact I don't have that kind of information and wasn't there myself. But I'd guess that attendance is not actual participation, and suggest that when we're considering this data, we distinguish CS from government delegates (and as far as we're concerned, focus on the former.) In my view, it's about civil (eg, IGC*) and epistemic (eg, Diplo) empowerment in order to foster quality contribution -- and I might add, a people-oriented one, as Ginger put it -- to this processes.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Cheers and safe trips to all traveling,</div><div><br></div><div>Mawaki</div><div><br></div><div>(*) I'd admit IGC has in itself both elements of civil empowerment and epistemic community, while Diplo disseminates knowledge of IG through a formal program. No matter the number of developing country delegates in attendance at IGF and such, these activities and many more need to be carried out and supported in order to enable (economically) developing nation's ownership of relevant IG issues, and their inputs.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 3:33 AM, McTim <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dogwallah@gmail.com">dogwallah@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Jeremy,<br>
<br>
Good speech overall, one nit to pick.<br>
<br>
"continuing to expand the inclusiveness of the forum, particularly to<br>
participants from the developing world,"<br>
<br>
I heard a lot of this (as in previous years)<br>
<br>
however, if one looks at the facts available, we see that nearly 2/3<br>
of delegates are from developing countries. These are delegates in<br>
"delegations" only from <a href="http://info.intgovforum.org/PLPLit.php" target="_blank">http://info.intgovforum.org/PLPLit.php</a>.<br>
<br>
206 delegates from a total of 316 are from IMF listed "developing<br>
countries" ...the % is 65.20.<br>
<br>
Avri, Mawaki, can we get a fuller breakdown of all participants at some point?<br>
<br>
A mashup would be dead simple if we had full, open data.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
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On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Danny Butt <<a href="mailto:db@dannybutt.net">db@dannybutt.net</a>> wrote:<br>
> Just wanted to add my approval to your closing speech - clearly lays out the issues and makes concrete suggestions for change. Well done!<br>
><br>
> Danny<br>
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> On 18/09/2010, at 3:26 AM, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:<br>
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>> is here:<br>
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>> <a href="http://www.igfwatch.org/discussion-board/my-statement-for-civil-society-at-igf-2010s-closing-session" target="_blank">http://www.igfwatch.org/discussion-board/my-statement-for-civil-society-at-igf-2010s-closing-session</a><br>
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