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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hi Bertrand<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Is there a report from the France-Netherlands initiative, and
plan for moving forwards that you could share with us?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Many thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Lisa<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Bertrand de La Chapelle
[mailto:bdelachapelle@gmail.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> 17 August 2010 11:08<br>
<b>To:</b> governance@lists.cpsr.org; Ginger Paque<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Parminder<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [governance] Net neutrality: Definitions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Just a few general points to
chime in :<br>
<br>
On <b>Net Neutrality</b> : one of the outcomes I took from the discussions in
the 2010 EuroDIG (the european IGF in Madrid) is that the question could be
reframed around : "<b>limitations to traffic management</b>". It
combines the recognition that there is legitimate traffic management by
operators (for instance to ensure QoS for VoIP or streaming video) but that
there could be limitations to it, in order to preserve for instance principles
of non-discrimination, transparency, enabling innovation, etc...<br>
<br>
On the notion of <b>Public Internet</b> : in many respects, the global Internet
could be qualified as a "<b>common pool resource</b>" as defined in
the seminal work of Elinor Ostrom (nobel Prize in Economics 2009). The
framework for the collective governance of such a CPR is the multi-stakeholder
model we are trying to establish (cf. the other thread on this list).<br>
<br>
Additionally, in a joint initiative with the Netherlands regarding Freedom of
Expression on the Internet, France is suggesting to explore international
arrangements that could give the Internet a <b>legal status analogous to what
is used for international canals, waterways or straits</b> : right of free
harmless transit, responsibility of the upstream actors (including governments)
towards downstream actors, etc... The Council of Europe is working on similar
paths with a group on trans-border issues regarding the Internet. These are very
early thoughts and analogies only go so far, but it is worth exploring.
Comments welcome. <br>
<br>
Best<br>
<br>
Bertrand <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Ginger Paque <<a
href="mailto:gpaque@gmail.com">gpaque@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>This
discussion will be productive. Do we have any proposed definitions as starting
points:<br>
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Internet:<br>
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Public Internet:<br>
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Internet as a public good:<br>
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Net Neutrality:<br>
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On 8/14/2010 3:28 AM, parminder wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
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When the issues of managed services and a tiered interent are so current, it is
useful to look at possible definitions of what constitutes a public Internet,
or well what constitutes an Internet. (Google has used the term non-Internet
services for managed services). Obviously, it is important to know what is
Internet before we pursue IG. <br>
<br>
Is it possible to work on some of these issues in the IGC? <o:p></o:p></p>
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