<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>You had me up until the part where you nominated me as one of the MAG insiders! I'm not a MAG member, and doubtless never will be. I did nominate myself once (or twice?), but the nomination disappeared into a black void without being acknowledged. Which leads us in to question 2, which (notwithstanding the lack of response to question 1 so far), I'll post in a minute.</div><div><br></div><div>On 08/06/2010, at 5:41 AM, Eric Dierker wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" style="position: static; z-index: auto; "><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><div>No it is not and has not been consistent. Somewhere the MAG got derailed from an outside to inside force to a circular just inside MAG closed loop. The world does not work inside this MAG vaccum and yet the MAG seems to think it is reflective of the dynamic nature of global Internet usage. It does not interact well with the public forum of it's own design - the IGF. MAG members do not put their "stuff out there" for multistakeholder comment and participation. They act like they got on a first class life raft and there is not room for drowning participants without pedigree invitation.</div>
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<div>Malcolm is a perfect example -- he posts, fails to engage and just reposts his newest decrees or whatever his "closed loop" mindset calls it. He might as well be a reporter covering the Malcolm beat for his own newspaper. Looks like someone too smart to learn from the rabble of the masses. Can you imagine taking a class where -- you are the guest lecturer, author of the textbook and professor,, how the hell could you learn anything you did not already know? And so what can MAG possibly contribute that they have not already. There is no mechanism for uptake of new data or Ideas.<br><br>--- On <b>Fri, 6/4/10, Jeremy Malcolm <i><<a href="mailto:jeremy@ciroap.org">jeremy@ciroap.org</a>></i></b> wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><br>From: Jeremy Malcolm <<a href="mailto:jeremy@ciroap.org">jeremy@ciroap.org</a>><br>Subject: [governance] [1 of 6] Has the work of the MAG been consistent with the mandate set out in the Tunis Agenda and subsequent decisions?<br>To: <a href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a><br>Date: Friday, June 4, 2010, 11:57 AM<br><br>
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<div>The MAG has put out a request for comments (at <a href="http://intgovforum.org/cms/the-preparatory-process/510" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://intgovforum.org/cms/the-preparatory-process/510</a>) on improvements to the MAG and other IGF preparatory processes. The IGC coordinators are now commencing one thread per question for discussion of the issues raised. The results will go towards the development of a statement in due course. This message is to kick off the first of the six threads. The next thread will begin once this one is sufficiently advanced.</div>
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<div><b>Has the work of the MAG been consistent with the mandate set out in the Tunis Agenda and subsequent decisions?</b></div>
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<div>Background points for the assistance of newcomers:</div>
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<li>The Tunis Agenda simply called for the UN Secretary-General to "establish an effective and cost-efficient bureau to support the IGF, ensuring multi-stakeholder participation."</li>
<li>Most of the important "subsequent decisions" made about its structure and working methods were made in February-March 2006.</li>
<li>There were to have been "about 40" members, though this has crept up to 57 currently.</li>
<li>The members of the MAG are appointed by the UN Secretary-General, based on nominations from stakeholders. No formal application criteria have ever been posted.</li>
<li>The balance between members from government, the private sector, general civil society and the technical community favours government and the technical community.</li>
<li>The Chair ex officio is the UN Secretary-General's advisor on Internet governance issues. </li>
<li>The MAG meets several times per year in Geneva, in private sessions - though intergovernmental observers attend freely. Most members attend at their own expense.</li>
<li>Meetings utilise the "Chatham House" rule whereby statements made in the meetings can be repeated outside, but not the identities of the speakers.</li>
<li>There is a closed electronic mailing list, anonymised excerpts from which are posted online periodically.</li>
<li>So far, the MAG's work has mainly consisted of agenda-setting for the annual IGF meeting and the selection of speakers. Decisions on these matters are made by rough consensus as declared by the Chair.</li>
<li>The MAG has not taken any significant roles outside of the above, such as developing outputs for the IGF or liaising with external institutions.</li>
<li>Formally, the MAG's role is simply to advise the UN Secretary-General and does not exercise any authority on its own behalf.</li></ul></div>
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<div>So questions to be addressed in this thread include:</div>
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<li>Are we happy with the above arrangements?</li>
<li>How could they be improved?</li></ul></div>
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<div>Let the discussion commence.</div>
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