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At 21:35 23/05/2010, Avri Doria wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Hi,<br>
Part of the problem I have found in getting people to accept new methods
on a large scale is that most people are adverse to having to learn
something new. Especially if learning the stuff they know was hard
work. Most adults just don't readily take to the role of learners who
have to ask questions and get help.<br><br>
Several studies, i would have to go digging for references, show that
people tend to accept new things that closely resemble old things they
already know how to do.<br>
so I am all for introducing new methods into producing decently
configured spaces, and have even put work into them on occasion, but I
still have not found the secret ingredient of getting people to move
beyond what they know.<br>
a.</blockquote><br>
This is correct from a personal usage point of view. However, the notion
of consensus "decision" is sociologically controverted (vs.
consensus uncovering) as this actually is consensually acceptable
compromise. Anyway, the very notion of consensus or rough consensus (as
in the IETF) is totalitarian (only one single "community
correct" position is seeked to be favored/imposed). As such it is
adequate to (de)centralized networking architectures where a single
reference is preferable and should be "adopted". Peaceful
agreements in the distributed reality of the world are actually based on
multiconsensuses. They are the very basis of our social life and
distributed relations and networks. This explains the technical inutility
of the IGF, which results from its disrespect of the WSIS
recommendations. WSIS called upon:<br><br>
- consensus among the members of <b>dynamic coalitions of interests</b>,
i.e. on the topic they internally discuss. Then on a consensus on the way
these coalitions should interconsider the consensual suggestions from
other dynamic coalitions of interworking interests,<br>
- to permit the operational framework of <b>operational enhanced
cooperations</b>. <br><br>
We were to work on the enhanced cooperation concept from experience. As
long there is one unique "enhanced cooperation" (or
"financially oriented cooperation") under the form of the
ISOCANN objective alliance, we have not experienced yet the true nature
of the Internet, and what its Governance (or better, its
"intergovernance") really is. The Internet and the Internet
governance are certainly not the monolith that some try to make us
accept. It is an interoperable diversity which has to perform, deploy and
develop under a multiconsensual adminance (*), in tune with the
multiconsensual intergovernance of the diversity of its
utilizations.<br><br>
The Internet is not something local one can "decide" about. It
is something global one has to live with and influence (through those who
design, use and manage it" RFC 3935). I accept that this is more
difficult to commonly understand when the American and English/French
meanings of the term "global" oppose ("the unique
whole" in American, "the whole diversity set" in
European). <br><br>
Happily the size of the Internet is conceptually increasing
"beyond" our globe (at least in terms of scale: from nano to
space) and new terms have to be (have already been) found which make this
clearer in such an exceptional context. Today, the Internet architecture
(and therefore its adminance and governance) should be considered along
its current description set formed by RFC 1958, RFC 3439 and IDNA2008.
Many civil society issues would be more practically perceived, discussed
and addressed, because<b> they would be more in phase with what they
discuss, and the users needs</b>. Please note that these considerations
are also the very basis of what I believe IETF (through IAB) is to review
in response to the appeal I am forming, as they seem technically
conflicting. <br><br>
Best<br>
jfc<br><br>
(*) governance is about the policy on how people can use the Internet
now, adminance is about the teleology and teleonomy influencing the way
to administer, maintain and design it within the duration. <br><br>
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