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<DIV>We should not strive to rid our selves of people. But of bad acts. So the Rights are for people and the laws are for activity. We do not outlaw criminals and perverts we outlaw certain actions. That is why a nation is judged not by how it treats the upperclass but how it treats its most disadvantaged citizenry. This is also why it is the criminal that needs the rights not the advantaged law abider. </DIV>
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<DIV>If it were not for the above then innocence would play second fiddle to expedience and efficiency would trump caring. Before you ask "should victims have rights?" you should realize that all must have rights, hence catholic and universal. So it is merely baiting the speaker when you ask such things and and probably leads to nowhere.<BR><BR>--- On <B>Thu, 3/4/10, Roland Perry <I><roland@internetpolicyagency.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: Roland Perry <roland@internetpolicyagency.com><BR>Subject: Re: R: [governance] If web-platforms are "criminally responsible for<BR>To: governance@lists.cpsr.org<BR>Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 7:55 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=plainMail>In message <<A href="http://us.mc839.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=95227A668FFBB141A238AE53582A8E11E2E173@VEXNODE2.man.provincia.mi.it" ymailto="mailto:95227A668FFBB141A238AE53582A8E11E2E173@VEXNODE2.man.provincia.mi.it">95227A668FFBB141A238AE53582A8E11E2E173@VEXNODE2.man.provincia.mi.it</A>>, at 12:44:59 on Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Fiorello Cortiana <<A href="http://us.mc839.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=f.cortiana@provincia.milano.it" ymailto="mailto:f.cortiana@provincia.milano.it">f.cortiana@provincia.milano.it</A>> writes<BR>> I think we need an "Internet Bill of Roghts" adopted with a multilevel<BR>> and multistakeholder process capable to harmonize the Universal<BR>> Declaration of Human Rights, the different Constitutions and the self<BR>> codes adopted by companies<BR><BR>Would such a "Bill of Rights" include the concept that people have a right to be safe on the Internet, and therefore the authorities
(whatever that implies) need the tools to rid us of criminals and purveyors of anti-social behaviour?<BR><BR>Or would it embrace the idea that everyone has a right to do whatever they please - even if someone perceives a harm to others?<BR><BR>Perhaps something in between... but where do we draw that line in the sand? Especially when different societies (and different people within the same societies) have different ideas about what constitutes harm.<BR><BR>-- Roland Perry<BR>____________________________________________________________<BR>You received this message as a subscriber on the list:<BR> <A href="http://us.mc839.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=governance@lists.cpsr.org" ymailto="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</A><BR>To be removed from the list, send any message to:<BR> <A href="http://us.mc839.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=governance-unsubscribe@lists.cpsr.org"
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