<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>On 03/03/2010, at 12:42 PM, Parminder wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">I agree with Milton's doubts whether the MS framework contributes
anything new (in a positive sense) for organising our political
systems. What does the term stakeholder groups bring in beyond what we
already know as 'interest groups', a basic and a widely used concept
of representative democracy. Unless those arguing for MS-ism as the
basic new governance form clearly articulate a response to this
question, it is difficult to go any further in this discussion. <br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It can be justified on the basis that each of the stakeholder groups draws its legitimacy from a different source. For governments, it is their democratic representation of their citizens; for the private sector, it is that free markets offer superior efficiency in the distribution of goods and services; and civil society promotes substantive values for their own sake, including transnational values for which governments can claim no democratic mandate.</div><div><br></div><div>But at the end of the day I agree with Avri that largely it is largely a pragmatic thing, because the three (arguably more) stakeholder groups were formally recognised at WSIS, so why not let's run with that while it helps us, without assuming it is either a panacea or a fundamentally new paradigm of governance.</div><br></div><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>-- </div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13px; "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><b style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102); "><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold; ">Jeremy Malcolm<br>Project Coordinator</span></font></b><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: black; "><br></span></font><font color="gray" face="Arial" size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial; color: gray; ">Consumers International<br>Kuala Lumpur Office for Asia Pacific and the Middle East<br>Lot 5-1 Wisma WIM, 7 Jalan Abang Haji Openg, TTDI, 60000 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia<br>Tel: +60 3 7726 1599</span></font></p><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><b><font color="#cc9900" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(204, 153, 0); font-weight: bold; ">CI is 50</span></font></b></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font color="#993366" face="Arial" size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(153, 51, 102); ">Consumers International marks 50 years of the global consumer movement in 2010.</span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font color="#993366" face="Arial" size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(153, 51, 102); ">Celebrate with us as we continue to support, promote and protect consumer rights around the world. <br><u><a href="http://www.consumersinternational.org/50" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; "><font color="#993366"><span style="color: rgb(153, 51, 102); ">http://www.consumersinternational.org/50</span></font></a></u><br></span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; "><br></span></font><font color="#999999" face="Arial" size="1"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(153, 153, 153); ">Read our <a href="http://www.consumersinternational.org/Templates/Internal.asp?NodeID=100521&int1stParentNodeID=89765" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; "><font color="#999999"><span style="color: rgb(153, 153, 153); ">email confidentiality notice</span></font></a>. 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