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<font face="Verdana">Lee said: <br>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">"In sum: I strongly support an IGC statement calling for 'Open Internet'
to be a main theme."
and
</span></font><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"></span></font>'Network Neutrality - Ensuring an Open Internet Architecture'
Both of these options are great if they allow space for discussion of
underlying openness, which may be a good way to approach IRP without
triggering any strong opposition. I don't think it matters if "Open Internet"
is dated as a phrase if it conveys the meaning we want.
I ask those who have a better grasp of the terminology to explain if the
wording of 'Network Neutrality - Ensuring an Open Internet Architecture'
is likely to be interpreted as a "technical topic" more suited to a panel
or workshop than an overall theme for the IGF 2010.
Best, Ginger
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Parminder,
Lee:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">As was
discussed at the IGF panel in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Egypt</st1:place></st1:country-region>, while
the term NN has its problems (it basically articulates a goal rather
than a
full-fledged regulatory policy, and a great deal of confusion has
emerged
around the issue of differentiation of bandwidth) the term “open
internet” is
too vapid and meaningless to be put forward as an alternative. Insofar
as
people can agree on using the term “open” it is precisely because it is
largely
meaningless. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">That
certainly explains the FCC’s choice
(the FCC must find a middle ground between a strong NN movement and the
business
lobbyists/carriers). As for being dated, surely Lee knows that “open”
is “so
1985” and makes Net Neutrality look fresh and young by comparison. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">All that
being said, Lee’s proposed title
is acceptable to me: </span></font>'Network Neutrality - Ensuring an
Open
Internet Architecture'<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><font
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Parminder [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net">mailto:parminder@itforchange.net</a>] <br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, January
31, 2010
10:14 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a></st1:PersonName>;
<st1:PersonName w:st="on">Lee W McKnight</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Ian Peter</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re:
[governance] Re:
Separate statement on themes for <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Vilnius</st1:place></st1:City></span></font><font
color="black"><span style="color: windowtext;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Lee<br>
<br>
The rest of the world may be a little behind US on this debate, and
Network Neutrality (NN) terms makes clearer sense to most. On the other
hand
open Internet is a little less clear as to its precise meaning. For
instance, 'openness' as an IGF theme has mostly dealt with entirely
different
issues. Also IGC and Diplo Foundation co-sponsored workshop went with
the NN
label and could get most of the discussion focus on the right points.
Let us
not be hung up on one name or the other as far as we can make the
judgment on
what name would convey the right (or thereabout) meaning to most in an
IGF
setting. Nobody today seriously believes that NN means absolutely no
network
management at all, even for issues like security.<br>
<br>
May I propose we call it 'Network Neutrality - Ensuring an Open
Internet
Architecture' <br>
<br>
<br>
Parminder <br>
<br>
<st1:PersonName w:st="on">Lee W McKnight</st1:PersonName> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<pre wrap=""><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Like Ian i am happier I am happier with the phrase 'open internet;' but would rather drop the phrase net neutrailty altogether. If I can't persuade rest of you to go along with that, then at least open internet should come 1st and net neutrality phrase 2nd.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">In sum: I strongly support an IGC statement calling for 'Open Internet' to be a main theme.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">My rationale: frankly 'net neutrality' as a stand-alone phrase is very 2008/dated. <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">For example: The FCC launched an openinternet.gov website; and 'open internet' notice of proposed rulemaking - sometimes referred to as net neutrailty rulemaking, but that's not what the FCC is calling it. Reply comments are due march 5th if we/IGC care to comment ; ).<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">From the FCC's openinternet.gov website:<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Get Informed about the Open Internet<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"> * Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">About the Open Internet NPRM<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">What Is the Open Internet, and What Does the FCC Have To Do With It?<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">The "open Internet" is the Internet as we know it. It’s "open" because it uses free, publicly available standards that anyone can access and build to, and because it treats all traffic that flows across the network in roughly the same way. This means an innovator in a garage or a student in a dorm room can easily invent and launch a new online service, and that content from a small business or a blogger can reach customers and audiences as easily as content from a multinational corporation or a major newspaper. Once you’re online, you don’t have to ask permission or pay tolls to broadband providers to reach others on the network. If you develop an innovative new website, you don’t have to get permission to share it with the world. Many believe that this freedom to communicate and innovate without permission is a big cause of the Internet’s remarkable success.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">But the Internet’s openness appears to face some emerging challenges, such as incidents where broadband providers have restricted the applications their customers can use over their Internet connections, a lack of transparency about how consumers’ Internet service will function, and congestion on the network.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">In light of these emerging challenges and uncertainties about existing policies, last month the FCC began a process to seek public input on draft rules of the road that would clarify and supplement current FCC policies to protect the open Internet. These basic, high-level rules would ensure that broadband providers don’t block consumers from accessing the content and applications of their choice, don’t deprive consumers of their entitlement to competition, and don’t discriminate against or in favor of traffic, and they would require broadband providers to disclose basic information about broadband service. Recognizing that the proposed framework needs to balance potentially competing interests while helping to ensure an open, safe, and secure Internet, the draft rules would permit broadband providers to engage in reasonable network management, including but not limited to efforts to block spam and ensure that heavy users don’
t crowd out other users.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">To launch the rulemaking process, the Commission adopted a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking, often referred to as the "open Internet NPRM." As the FCC always does when it considers new rules, it has asked the public for input, and anyone may submit comments over a period of several months. After the deadline for comments has passed and the FCC has reviewed the public’s input, the FCC’s five Commissioners may vote to adopt rules on these issues.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">From: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Ian Peter</st1:PersonName> [<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>]<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 4:21 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Subject: Re: [governance] Re: Separate statement on themes for <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Vilnius</st1:place></st1:City><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">I’d certainly like to see network neutrality/ open internet advanced as a theme, and seeing net neutrality can be so confusing I’d like to see open Internet added after it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">IGC co sponsored a very successful three hour workshop on this at Sharm with Diplo. There are many issues, content neutrality probably sitting highest in my mind. Its worthy of a main session as the current main session themes we have repeated for some years are getting a little tired.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">And yes we should continue to support the human rights and development agendas. We need to find a way to overcome the block on rights discussions which was evident last year – if anyone has suggestions on how we might achieve this I would be interested.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">From: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Jeremy Malcolm</st1:PersonName> <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jeremy@ciroap.org"><jeremy@ciroap.org></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Reply-To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org"><governance@lists.cpsr.org></a>, <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Jeremy Malcolm</st1:PersonName> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jeremy@ciroap.org"><jeremy@ciroap.org></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 16:40:27 +0800<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org"><governance@lists.cpsr.org></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Subject: [governance] Re: Separate statement on themes for <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Vilnius</st1:place></st1:City><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">On 29/01/2010, at 6:47 PM, <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Jeremy Malcolm</st1:PersonName> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">So, let's get to work on such a statement now. I don't think it needs to be very long, and indeed we could just put forward some bullet points for Ginger to elaborate upon on the day. So far we have on the table the following substantive themes:<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">* Human rights<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">* Development agenda<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">* Network neutrality/Open Internet<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Comments, please, particularly on the last of these which Parminder has just introduced?<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">With just over a week to go there have still been no comments on this thread so far, so I will try to summarise some of the arguments that are usually made for and against this theme, as a way of kick-starting discussion:<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">FOR:<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Network neutrality (or "open Internet") emphasises the interest of Internet users in being able, by default, to access content, services and applications free from corporate or governmental interference (though there are cases in which compelling interests may require exceptions to this general principle). Network neutrality also stands for the treatment of intermediaries (again, by default) as conduits for information, rather than gatekeepers who bear liability for the content they carry.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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style="font-size: 10pt;">AGAINST:<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">Network neutrality is a confusing phrase with many different meanings to different people. For example it is still wrongly thought of as preventing individual network operators from managing their bandwidth, which will only lead to misunderstandings in <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Vilnius</st1:place></st1:City> (like the arguments over whether "critical Internet resources" includes electricity). On the other hand "Open Internet" doesn't seem to add anything to the existing "Openness" theme, so why not just keep using that existing theme instead?<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt;">--<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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