Hi Ginger, Paul <i>et al:</i><br><br>Just a quick echo of appreciation. Category sorting is often such a big job and brava bravo for undertaking it especially in a super timely and super relevant content domain.,.<br><br>
Warm regards from cold New York,<br><br>Linda; M F.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Ginger Paque <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gpaque@gmail.com">gpaque@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<pre>On 1/31/10, Fearghas McKay <a href="mailto:fm-lists@st-kilda.org" target="_blank"><fm-lists@st-kilda.org></a> wrote:
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<pre>The membership list is from the recent election, you had to be a
member to vote in the Charter Change vote.
Membership is gained by voting in the co-ordinator election according
to the current constitution/charter document.</pre>
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Precisely because of these points and questions raised by Paul Lehto
and others, it is obvious that we do need to have a review, analysis
and clarification process of our voting procedures. This was discussed
last year, and several people, including Paul Lehto and Fearghas McKay,
perhaps Ian and Parminder, as well as myself, have offered to work on
this. The work is projected to start as soon as possible after the
February OC in Geneva, and I think that Paul is already doing a
preliminary review.<br>
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My interpretation is that the "separate" list possibility came up when
we needed to establish a "number" of actual IGC members, in order to
decide on the number of votes needed to approve a charter amendment.
Since our mailing list consists of email addresses, not "people" or
even names, and in fact has multiple email addresses for some people,
it is difficult to use that list as a basis to establish this number.<br>
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For that reason, we have been drawing up a "member's list" which
includes those who have exercised their right to vote in recent
elections, so we know they are active members. Others who have been
mailing list members for over two months, and affirm their subscription
to the charter, may also vote in, for example, a co-coordinator
election.<br>
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To my understanding they (members of the mailing list for over two
months) may also take part in a call for consensus, and their votes are
valid in the call for consensus. I am uncertain about the "legal"
status of voting for a charter amendment, and a WG opinion on that
would be very helpful.<br>
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Best,<br>
Ginger<br>
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Paul Lehto wrote:
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<pre>On 1/31/10, Fearghas McKay <a href="mailto:fm-lists@st-kilda.org" target="_blank"><fm-lists@st-kilda.org></a> wrote:
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<pre>The membership list is from the recent election, you had to be a
member to vote in the Charter Change vote.
Membership is gained by voting in the co-ordinator election according
to the current constitution/charter document.
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<pre>Please cite the Charter provision providing that "membership is gained
by voting in the co-ordinator election" because I don't see that in
the charter. What I see is only the requirement of affirming the
charter which must be done for each and every vote in order for that
vote to be valid, and that affirmation is to be a 'personal decision'
of the individual. Moreover, since the Charter indicates all members
are equal in rights and duties, creating a two class system of voters
and members as a matter of Charter requirements does not at all seem
justified.
Paul Lehto, Juris Doctor
Paul R Lehto, J.D.
P.O. Box #1
Ishpeming, MI 49849
<a href="mailto:lehto.paul@gmail.com" target="_blank">lehto.paul@gmail.com</a>
906-204-4026
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