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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN class=698124307-31012010>The
below comments from Siva to my mind say what needs to be said, emphasizes what
needs to be emphasized while not saying in places what ought not to be said and
is better left avoided ;-)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN class=698124307-31012010>So, I
concur and with similar due respect etc. and not having had the time for direct
intervention or for the necessary close attention, I also
abstain.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=698124307-31012010>M</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr lang=en-us class=OutlookMessageHeader align=left><FONT size=2
face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Sivasubramanian
Muthusamy [mailto:isolatedn@gmail.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 31,
2010 2:12 PM<BR><B>To:</B> governance@lists.cpsr.org; Jeremy
Malcolm<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [governance] < 24 hours remaining to vote
YES + thematic working<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT color=#996633><FONT
size=2><FONT face=verdana,sans-serif>
<DIV>Hello</DIV>
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<DIV>This statement does not quite say what needs to be said, does not
emphasize what needs to be emphasized while saying in places what ought not to
be said or what might better be avoided.</DIV>
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<DIV>With all due respect for the IGC, its Coordinators and all its
participants, I abstain. </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><BR clear=all></FONT></FONT></FONT>Sivasubramanian
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Jeremy Malcolm <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:jeremy@ciroap.org"
target=_blank>jeremy@ciroap.org</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word">If you have not voted on the IGC
statement for the next open consultation meeting, please vote now. At
present the statement might not pass the consensus call - not because there
has been a lot of opposition to it, but because the total number of
responses is still relatively low.
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>Please also remember that we have another thread in which to discuss
the agenda for the Vilnius meeting: so far there has been no response to
Parminder's suggestion of a theme on "Network Neutrality/Open
Internet". </DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Here once again is the statement on which we have a consensus call.
Everyone who has voted YES so far has been contacted off-list to
clarify their attitude towards thematic working groups - none have yet
changed their vote.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Please vote:</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><B>YES + thematic working groups </B>to accept the statement as
shown here</DIV>
<DIV><B>YES</B> to accept the statement without the [underlined
passage]</DIV>
<DIV><B>NO</B> to reject the statement</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><B>Submission of the IGC in taking stock of the Sharm el Sheikh
meeting of the IGF</B></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>The Internet Governance Caucus (IGC) strongly supports the continuation
of the Internet Governance Forum (IGF) as a multi-stakeholder forum for the
discussion of Internet-related public policy issues. When, as we
expect, the forum's mandate is extended for a further term, there are a
number of adjustments that we believe should be taken into account,
continuing the IGF's pattern of incremental improvement since its
inauguration in 2006.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>None of these suggestions would fundamentally alter the IGF as an
institution; for example, we are content that it remain formally
convened by the UN Secretary General, with an independent budget and a
Secretariat under contract with the United Nations Department of
Economic and Social Affairs (UNDESA). We do not see any benefit to the
IGF in moving underneath a different UN body such as the ITU.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>One question on which the IGC is in clear agreement is that the
composition of the Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) itself should be
more evenly divided between the stakeholder groups. Many also believe
that the stakeholders should have a more direct role in the selection of MAG
members, and that MAG discussions should continue to be made more
transparent.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>One particular aspect of the IGF's operations in which the
participation of stakeholders could be improved is in setting the
substantive agenda of IGF meetings. We understand that the MAG might
not be rotated this year (though in our view the uncertainty about the IGF's
future need not preclude that). If a rotation does not take place,
care must be taken that this does not result in the programme for the
Vilnius meeting being prematurely set in stone. <SPAN
style="TEXT-DECORATION: line-through">[[The IGC is ready to make
innovative contributions to enhance the present
"Secretariat-MAG-Open Consultation" mechanism for the preparation of
IGF meetings.]]</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>The IGF should also consider how to improve its orientation towards the
development of tangible outputs, even if these would amount to "messages"
rather than to recommendations, declarations or statements (though many of
our members would also support outputs of these stronger kinds).
Whatever form its outputs take, efforts should be taken to ensure that
they are transmitted to relevant external institutions through appropriate
mechanisms.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Similarly, attention must be given to the effectiveness of the IGF's
intersessional work program, which is currently limited to open
consultations, MAG meetings, dynamic coalition meetings, and loosely
connected national and regional meetings. In
particular, there should be a better mechanism than at present for
these other groups and meetings to present their outputs to the IGF as a
whole. This would require the IGF to set more stringent standards for
such groups and meetings, including open membership, democratic processes,
and perhaps multi-stakeholder composition.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="TEXT-DECORATION: underline">[The MAG should also organize
thematic working groups to develop background material, IGF discussion
synthesis etc on major themes selected to be taken up by the
IGF.]</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>We thank you for the opportunity to present you with these thoughts,
which reflect a "rough consensus" of our several hundred members
from civil society. We look forward to continuing to constructively
engage with and participate in the IGF over the course of its renewed
term.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><B>About the IGC</B></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>The IGC is an association of individuals in civil
society, with a wide spread of geographic and gender
representation, who are actively engaged in internet governance
and the IGF. Formed during the lead up to the World Summit on the
Information Society (WSIS), our mission is to promote global
public interest objectives in Internet governance policy making. It now
comprises more than 400 individual subscribers to its mailing list, who have
subscribed to its Charter. More about our coalition can be found
at <A href="http://www.igcaucus.org"
target=_blank>http://www.igcaucus.org</A>. <BR>
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