Fouad,<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 3:48 AM, Fouad Bajwa <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fouadbajwa@gmail.com">fouadbajwa@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hi,<br>
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Yes there is just one NRO, just to clarify your comment, for my<br>
region's 'Asian' allocation of Number Resources passed on from IANA,<br>
we have an Asian body that is a member of the NRO called APNIC Asia<br>
Pacific Network Information Centre and the news was forwarded from<br>
what I receive from them on a regular basis. Here is the APNIC IPv4<br>
address block allocation. </blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">For us we will always refer to it as the<br>
Asian NRO</blockquote><div><br>The term NRO has been around for only ~7 years, while the term RIR has been around for a lot longer. You can call it what you will, of course.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
because that is whom our region interacts with, its quite<br>
expensive though</blockquote><div><br>What is expensive? I suspect you think that it is the cost of an IPv4 address to an End User. This cost is NOT determined by the RIRs in any way, these costs are set by the Local Internet Registry. If you think that these costs would be reduced by the implementation of CIRs, then I suspect you haven't really thought critically about the issue.<br>
<br>The RIRs allocate and assign IPv6 addresses in a way that could not be cheaper. Initially, fees were waived across all the RIRs in a bid to promote IPv6 adoption. If you believe Milton's latest work on IPv6 costs, each LIR (in African and Latin America/Caribbean) pays ~4 US cents per /48 (there are 65536 /48s in a default alloc of /32). For APNIC, the calculation is slightly more complex (1180 AUD x 1.3<sup>(log(addresses)-22)2,3).</sup><br>
<br>No matter how you calculate, no matter which region, we are talking about, IPv6 addresses very small fractions of one US cent per IPv6 address. NB: In Ipv6 land, we think in terms of sunets and not individual addresses.<br>
<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">, the Malaysian guy at IGF2009 was right, we need more<br>
decentralization of the NRO and regional allocators :o)<br></blockquote><div><br>Now I now you are just trying to wind me up, as this is a disastrous idea for your DA in IG. I'm sure you have read my CircleID post about this, but if not, you should:<br>
<br><a href="http://www.circleid.com/posts/country_internet_registries_one_african_perspective">http://www.circleid.com/posts/country_internet_registries_one_african_perspective</a><br><br>The most important thing that an RIR does that a CIR may not do is to provide a truly bottom up, transparent and open PDP for numbering policies. CS should embrace this as a BP in IG. It is THE ideal CS way to do things. <br>
<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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Two /8s allocated to APNIC from IANA (1/8 and 27/8)<br></blockquote><div><br>These are the latest allocs only, to see the full list of v4 allocs to APNIC, go here: <br><br><a href="http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space/ipv4-address-space.xml">http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space/ipv4-address-space.xml</a><br>
<br>or<br> <br><a href="http://www.apnic.net/db/ranges.html" target="_blank">http://www.apnic.net/db/ranges.html</a><br><br><br></div></div>-- <br>Cheers,<br><br>McTim<br>"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel<br>