<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><DIV>Paul Lehto wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV>"""What's objectionable to me, because it creates the danger of<BR>pathology, is the risk of intentionally or unintentionally abandoning<BR>important ideals as ultimate goals on the grounds that they are<BR>utopian and not practical, pie in the sky and not achievable, etc.<BR>That can all be considered to be true, and yet it is still dangerous<BR>pathology to abandon the ideal, and it is ill advised to discredit the<BR>ideal such as Honesty with arguments that it is utopian, naive,<BR>unachievable in fact, and not workable or very facilitative of<BR>tangible measurable goals."""</DIV>
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<DIV>Does this include voting - shouldn't we try even though it may be imperfect?</DIV>
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