<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">
<HTML>
<HEAD>
<META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
<META NAME="Generator" CONTENT="MS Exchange Server version 6.0.4630.0">
<TITLE>RE: [governance] AW: [tt-group] FW: GAID</TITLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY>
<!-- Converted from text/rtf format -->
<BR>
<P><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Avri,</FONT></SPAN>
</P>
<P><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">I'm not really sure what you mean by "</FONT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">full participatory multistakeholder systems</FONT><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">" but I would have thought that we, as civil society should be supporting a full participatory<U> democratic</U> process as the basis for both national and global policy development.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">I have very real concerns about the corporatist outcomes and forms that "multistakeholder systems" seem to result in--a close look for example, at classic multistakeholder systems like the IOC/Olympics structures don't give one a lot of confidence in the broader benefits that are achieved as a result of these processes. (The narrower benefits realized by the various stakeholder beneficiaries and elites are rather easier to identify.)</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Mike</FONT></SPAN>
</P>
<P><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">(about to become a temporary refugee from the Vancouver Winter Olympics…</FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"></FONT> </SPAN>
<BR><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">-----Original Message-----</FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">From: Avri Doria [</FONT></SPAN><A HREF="mailto:avri@psg.com"><SPAN LANG="en-us"><U><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">mailto:avri@psg.com</FONT></U></SPAN></A><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">] </FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 9:09 AM</FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">To: IGC</FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Subject: Re: [governance] AW: [tt-group] FW: GAID</FONT></SPAN>
</P>
<BR>
<BR>
<P><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">On 28 Dec 2009, at 11:29, Parminder wrote:</FONT></SPAN>
</P>
<P><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> Do we basically lack belief in global policies (polity) of any kind or </FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> just in global policies made exclusively by intergovernmental forums </FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> without due participation by civil society in the spirit of what has </FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">> come to be known as 'deepening democracy'?</FONT></SPAN>
</P>
<BR>
<P><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">I am not sure that we, in the sense of we the IGC, have a belief.</FONT></SPAN>
</P>
<P><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Personally, i believe that the only valid global policies would come from full participatory multistakeholder systems. while it may not always be the case, the national state still fulfills a relevant function, but in my personal opinion it is one of several equal partners in any debate.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">So as long as we, in the sense of the IGC, are supporting the creation of a well formed multistakeholder regime, we have something I believe in. in my life i work for (either in a volunteer sense or a professional sense) two institutions that are working toward a multistakeholder future. neither has achieved that fully yet - each has a dominant force, in one the nations states and in the other the private sector, but both are, in my opinion on the right track an represent as far as we can get at this point.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">a.</FONT></SPAN>
</P>
<P><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">____________________________________________________________</FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">You received this message as a subscriber on the list:</FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"> governance@lists.cpsr.org</FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">To be removed from the list, send any message to:</FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"> governance-unsubscribe@lists.cpsr.org</FONT></SPAN>
</P>
<P><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">For all list information and functions, see:</FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"> </FONT></SPAN><A HREF="http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance"><SPAN LANG="en-us"><U><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance</FONT></U></SPAN></A><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN>
</P>
</BODY>
</HTML>