<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><DIV>Please clarify. An individual that makes a living in the business community, should be no different than an individual that makes a living in the clergy. I do not believe that when Einstein took a seat as a member of a corporate board he lost intelligence. I do not feel less commited to God when I write a policy for a multinational corporation.</DIV>
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<DIV>But I agree with anti-capture measures. ICANN really has a good model in the opposite. Corporations get all the power but individuals and civil society types get a liason. It looks good and politically correct but -- let us call a spade a spade and not a pitchfork.<BR><BR>--- On <B>Fri, 12/11/09, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy <I><isolatedn@gmail.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: Sivasubramanian Muthusamy <isolatedn@gmail.com><BR>Subject: Re: [governance] Regarding Membership Criteria for Future Members<BR>To: governance@lists.cpsr.org, "Ian Peter" <ian.peter@ianpeter.com><BR>Cc: "Fouad Bajwa" <fouadbajwa@gmail.com><BR>Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 1:52 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=plainMail>Hello Ian,<BR><BR>On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 5:46 AM, Ian Peter <<A href="http://us.mc839.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ian.peter@ianpeter.com" ymailto="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</A>> wrote:<BR>> Hi Fouad,<BR>><BR>> That's as regards membership. Of course Nomcoms and electors within our<BR>> membership may choose to take into account such factors as those you raise<BR>> in determining suitability for office. That's entirely appropriate and has<BR>> happened in the past.<BR><BR>If the Caucus does not discriminate between individuals as members,<BR>how would NomCom discriminate between candidates as candidates from a<BR>business background / government background etc? If there is no<BR>discrimination on the membership level, there can't be any<BR>discrimination at any level.<BR><BR>><BR>> I know others see it differently, but I personally don't have an issue with<BR>>
governmental or private sector employees being members per se. But it is<BR>> something that might be worth clarifying and discussing in the future.<BR><BR>If my understanding is right, the IGC is a 'Civil Society' Caucus, and<BR>it has remain as a Civil<BR>Society body where members from other sectors are admitted as<BR>exceptions but not indiscriminately. Keeping membership wide open for<BR>Government and Business might make the IGC a multi-stakeholder body,<BR>but that would imply that the IGC is no longer a 'Civil Society'<BR>Caucus. Equal status to Government and Business might in future get<BR>distorted as proportionately larger status and larger influence to<BR>Government and Business. That is to say that the seats within IGC may<BR>be largely occupied by Business and Government interests. So what do<BR>we want the IGC to be? A civil Society body or a multi-stakeholder<BR>body?<BR><BR>Sivasubramanian Muthusamy<BR><BR>><BR>>
Ian<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>> From: Fouad Bajwa <<A href="http://us.mc839.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=fouadbajwa@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:fouadbajwa@gmail.com">fouadbajwa@gmail.com</A>><BR>>> Reply-To: <<A href="http://us.mc839.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=governance@lists.cpsr.org" ymailto="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</A>>, Fouad Bajwa <<A href="http://us.mc839.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=fouadbajwa@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:fouadbajwa@gmail.com">fouadbajwa@gmail.com</A>><BR>>> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 04:50:34 +0500<BR>>> To: <<A href="http://us.mc839.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=governance@lists.cpsr.org" ymailto="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</A>><BR>>> Subject: [governance] Regarding Membership Criteria for Future Members<BR>>><BR>>> Dear all,<BR>>><BR>>> I wanted to ask our experienced peers for
some advice regarding<BR>>> membership of the IGC. I have been promoting IGC membership in the<BR>>> world around including any meeting regional or international that I<BR>>> attend. I have also encouraged a lot of people in the DiploFoundation<BR>>> network to join the IGC that belong to Civil Society, research or<BR>>> academia.<BR>>><BR>>> However, I have one small question to ask, as IGC represents the Civil<BR>>> Society in the Internet Governance Forum, can government<BR>>> representatives and private sector be member of the IGC? Does personal<BR>>> capacity mean that government and private sector people can join the<BR>>> IGC and access the Civil Society led IG discourse as well as<BR>>> participate in the consensus oriented proceedings as well as take<BR>>> their objectives/goals/agendas to the IGF while representing their<BR>>> governments and
companies?<BR>>><BR>>> I know I am confused a bit but again I have to be clear here. Thank<BR>>> you in advance for your comments!<BR>>><BR>>> --<BR>>> Regards.<BR>>> --------------------------<BR>>> Fouad Bajwa<BR>>> ____________________________________________________________<BR>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:<BR>>> <A href="http://us.mc839.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=governance@lists.cpsr.org" ymailto="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</A><BR>>> To be removed from the list, send any message to:<BR>>> <A href="http://us.mc839.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=governance-unsubscribe@lists.cpsr.org" ymailto="mailto:governance-unsubscribe@lists.cpsr.org">governance-unsubscribe@lists.cpsr.org</A><BR>>><BR>>> For all list information and functions, see:<BR>>>
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