<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><DIV>As one with a generally different point of view regarding activity on this list and membership, I think that Ian is spot on. The interest in my mind would simply be to "codify" or make certain this inclusive and fair minded approach. </DIV>
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<DIV>I think that the major players involved in Internet Governance are a bit too elitist and benevolent dictator types for me. I would like to see direct and large scale voting and polling on even the slightest of issues and representation. But the way this list and group, as a group have behaved is very clearly open and inviting to individual positions and out of the box thinking. Say no more than they welcome even me.</DIV>
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<DIV>All this congratulatory back slapping around here drives me nuts. But truth be told, Ian has done a great job keeping the membership and list participation open and diverse. The rules can always be bent to meet an agenda -- Ian has stayed on course only bending them in the direction of good governance.</DIV>
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<DIV>Your a very good outreach person, Fouad, please keep it up.</DIV>
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<DIV>Eric<BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 12/8/09, Ian Peter <I><ian.peter@ianpeter.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: Ian Peter <ian.peter@ianpeter.com><BR>Subject: Re: [governance] Regarding Membership Criteria for Future Members<BR>To: governance@lists.cpsr.org, "Fouad Bajwa" <fouadbajwa@gmail.com><BR>Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 12:16 AM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=plainMail>Hi Fouad,<BR><BR>There are two things here.<BR><BR>Firstly the discussion on the list here has always been open to anyone. I<BR>think personally that is a good thing and we should encourage more non civil<BR>society people to post here are share their views with us. The discourse on<BR>a more open list would I think be very valuable. So in terms of discussion<BR>and presence on list, I think there should be no requirements or restriction<BR>based on status. That I think is a good way for us to be.<BR><BR>But as regards membership.<BR><BR>Our Charter states clearly:<BR><BR>"The members of the IGC are individuals, acting in personal capacity, who<BR>subscribe to the charter of the caucus. All members are equal and have the<BR>same rights and duties."<BR><BR>I personally see nothing in the Charter that prohibits a government<BR>employee, Bill Gates, Rupert Murdoch, Barack Obama, Osama Bin Laden or<BR>anyone being a member providing they
subscribe to the charter. I also see<BR>nothing in the Charter that says a government employee, private sector<BR>employee, or entrepreneur should be treated differently to any other member<BR>should they choose to affirm the Charter.<BR><BR>Perhaps it should be different, but to my reading it isnšt.<BR><BR>That's as regards membership. Of course Nomcoms and electors within our<BR>membership may choose to take into account such factors as those you raise<BR>in determining suitability for office. That's entirely appropriate and has<BR>happened in the past.<BR><BR>I know others see it differently, but I personally don't have an issue with<BR>governmental or private sector employees being members per se. But it is<BR>something that might be worth clarifying and discussing in the future.<BR><BR>Ian<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>> From: Fouad Bajwa <<A href="http://us.mc839.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=fouadbajwa@gmail.com"
ymailto="mailto:fouadbajwa@gmail.com">fouadbajwa@gmail.com</A>><BR>> Reply-To: <<A href="http://us.mc839.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=governance@lists.cpsr.org" ymailto="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</A>>, Fouad Bajwa <<A href="http://us.mc839.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=fouadbajwa@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:fouadbajwa@gmail.com">fouadbajwa@gmail.com</A>><BR>> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 04:50:34 +0500<BR>> To: <<A href="http://us.mc839.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=governance@lists.cpsr.org" ymailto="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</A>><BR>> Subject: [governance] Regarding Membership Criteria for Future Members<BR>> <BR>> Dear all,<BR>> <BR>> I wanted to ask our experienced peers for some advice regarding<BR>> membership of the IGC. I have been promoting IGC membership in the<BR>> world around including any meeting regional or international that
I<BR>> attend. I have also encouraged a lot of people in the DiploFoundation<BR>> network to join the IGC that belong to Civil Society, research or<BR>> academia.<BR>> <BR>> However, I have one small question to ask, as IGC represents the Civil<BR>> Society in the Internet Governance Forum, can government<BR>> representatives and private sector be member of the IGC? Does personal<BR>> capacity mean that government and private sector people can join the<BR>> IGC and access the Civil Society led IG discourse as well as<BR>> participate in the consensus oriented proceedings as well as take<BR>> their objectives/goals/agendas to the IGF while representing their<BR>> governments and companies?<BR>> <BR>> I know I am confused a bit but again I have to be clear here. Thank<BR>> you in advance for your comments!<BR>> <BR>> --<BR>> Regards.<BR>> --------------------------<BR>> Fouad Bajwa<BR>>
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