<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><DIV>What my quote is pointing out is that using numbers to say that just because a large proportion of individuals do not consume the internet directly does not mean that their issues were not addressed. </DIV>
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<DIV>Just what is one of the issues that was not addressed? Access was addressed. Pricing was addressed. Infrastructure was addressed. Censorship was addressed.<BR><BR>--- On <B>Thu, 11/19/09, Michael Gurstein <I><gurstein@gmail.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=879534318-19112009>I have no idea what this sentence could possibly mean from any perspective--development, social science, marketing, management--"Direct use and consumption of a good or service is not any kind of test as to it's viability or value to a society."</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=879534318-19112009><FONT color=#000000>...... That individuals, communities, local institutions are unable to access the Net makes it all that much more difficult to bridge these gaps, fill these slots and so on and so on.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=879534318-19112009>All of which is to give me an opportunity to </SPAN><SPAN class=879534318-19112009>say once again BTW, how disappointed I am that there seems to have been little or no discussion at the IGF (although simply observing from afar I may have missed it) about issues of concern to the other 5.5 billion or so not currently accessing the Net.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=879534318-19112009> </SPAN>On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Eric Dierker <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="http://us.mc839.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cogitoergosum@sbcglobal.net" target=_blank rel=nofollow ymailto="mailto:cogitoergosum@sbcglobal.net">cogitoergosum@sbcglobal.net</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">This argument line is specious. Direct use and consumption of a good or service is not any kind of test as to it's viability or value to a society.<BR> <BR>Do we say that since only 2% of the population uses syringe(s) to inoculate thousands that the regulation and governance of medical appliances is not relevant? Do we say that because only the supplier uses a telecommunication device to supply food more efficiently and less expensive that the telecommunication device is not relevant to the eater?<BR>Are police academies not relevant to the safety of a small child?<BR> <BR>In fact the complete opposite is true. The need for intermediaries and those skilled is the only reason to allow all of us pontithicators to have any say in governance. The fact that the hunter and gatherer brings home the food from the forest does not
obsolve or relinquish the right and duty of the homemaker to manage his forest and fields. And since facts and opinions without study and understanding are more dangerous than helpful, I tolerate all of you speaking for the consumer ;-) You all be careful that I do not come up with an instant vaccine against ignorance, lest and whilst you be out of a job.<BR><BR><BR>--- On Thu, 11/19/09, Nyangkwe Agien Aaron <<A href="http://us.mc839.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nyangkweagien@gmail.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow ymailto="mailto:nyangkweagien@gmail.com">nyangkweagien@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR><BR><BR>From: Nyangkwe Agien Aaron <<A href="http://us.mc839.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nyangkweagien@gmail.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow ymailto="mailto:nyangkweagien@gmail.com">nyangkweagien@gmail.com</A>><BR>Subject: Re: [governance] FW: Internet Users Globally<BR>To: <A
href="http://us.mc839.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=governance@lists.cpsr.org" target=_blank rel=nofollow ymailto="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</A>, "Michael Gurstein" <<A href="http://us.mc839.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gurstein@gmail.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow ymailto="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com">gurstein@gmail.com</A>><BR>Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 10:42 AM<BR>
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<DIV><BR><BR>Many thanks Michael for the revelation.<BR>I can now understand that despite the availability of an optical fibre<BR>along the cost of my country Cameroun about 97.1% of my fellow country<BR>men and women do not use internet. Astonishing is the finding that<BR>only 86.56 Senegalese do not have access to Internet.<BR>And when you look at the per capita income of both countries!!!<BR><BR>Internet bandwith capacity in my office is here in Douala is 256/64<BR><BR>Aaon<BR><BR>On 11/18/09, Michael Gurstein <<A href="http://us.mc839.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gurstein@gmail.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow ymailto="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com">gurstein@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR>><BR>>> For a very revealing application concerning Internet users by country go<BR>>> to <SPAN class=879534318-19112009><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2> the </FONT></SPAN><BR>>><BR>>> If you go to Google and put "Internet
users in (your country of choice)"<BR>>> into the search bar you will get the information graphed by year!<BR>>><BR>> I'm wondering how much of the discussion at this year's IGF was of relevance<BR>> to the 99.19% of Malians who are not currently Internet users (or similalry<BR>> for 99.16% of Chadians, 89.49% of Bolivians, 92.8% of Indians, 98.18% of<BR>> Papua New Guineans etc.etc.<BR>><BR>>> MBG<BR>><BR><BR><BR>--<BR>Aaron Agien Nyangkwe<BR>Journalist-OutCome Mapper<BR>Special Assistant The President<BR>ASAFE<BR>P.O.Box 5213<BR>Douala-Cameroon<BR><BR>Tel. 237 3337 55 31, 3337 50 22<BR>Fax. 237 3342 29 70<BR>____________________________________________________________<BR>You received this message as a subscriber on the list:<BR> <A href="http://us.mc839.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=governance@lists.cpsr.org" target=_blank rel=nofollow
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