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face=Arial>Hmmm... That's precisely what I've done... "</FONT></SPAN><SPAN 
class=340061115-04102009><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>a (diverse) group 
of people with some detailed knowledge and experience in an area such as 
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  face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Eric Dierker 
  [mailto:cogitoergosum@sbcglobal.net] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 04, 2009 
  8:06 AM<BR><B>To:</B> governance@lists.cpsr.org; Michael 
  Gurstein<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [governance] FW: [IRP] Please provide your 
  input on the impact of the IGF<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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      <TD vAlign=top>Your are specifically avoiding the point.  Define 
        suitable.  Just what it means to you is fine.<BR><BR>--- On <B>Sun, 
        10/4/09, Michael Gurstein <I><gurstein@gmail.com></I></B> 
        wrote:<BR>
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          Michael Gurstein <gurstein@gmail.com><BR>Subject: RE: 
          [governance] FW: [IRP] Please provide your input on the impact of the 
          IGF<BR>To: "'Eric Dierker'" <cogitoergosum@sbcglobal.net>, 
          governance@lists.cpsr.org<BR>Date: Sunday, October 4, 2009, 12:14 
          AM<BR><BR>
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          face=Arial>As a matter of fact, yes... Having a group of people with 
          some detailed knowledge and experience in an area such as this would 
          seem to me to be a positive value... The difficulty comes in if that 
          group is not sufficiently diverse or representative of the range of 
          those with an interest in (interests in) the area (i.e. 
          "suitable"...  which of course, has been the basis of my 
          critique/commentary on the IGF from the beginning.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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          face=Arial>MBG</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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            size=2 face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Eric 
            Dierker [mailto:cogitoergosum@sbcglobal.net] <BR><B>Sent:</B> 
            Monday, September 14, 2009 11:02 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 
            governance@lists.cpsr.org; Michael Gurstein<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: 
            [governance] FW: [IRP] Please provide your input on the impact of 
            the IGF<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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                  <DIV>What do you mean by this paragraph. Are you stating that 
                  a "suitable" cadre is a positive impact?<BR>--- On <B>Tue, 
                  9/15/09, Michael Gurstein <I><A 
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                  ymailto="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com> wrote:">gurstein@gmail.com></I></B> 
                  wrote:</A></DIV>
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                    class=219070203-15092009>Rather the significance of the IGF 
                    should be seen in terms of how it has directly and 
                    indirectly contributed to the creation of a basis for 
                    concensus, a language for discussion, a (suitable) cadre 
                    of informed people to carry on the discussion (it is 
                    here where I have my issues with the current IGF but I won't 
                    go into those further at this point), the provision of a 
                    venue for the undertaking of the discussions and so on and 
                    so on.  None of this is particularly "national" (in 
                    fact little of it is likely to be national which is the 
                    point I think of transnational agencies) and little of it is 
                    likely to be visible as concrete "impacts" (or even 
                    outputs--which is what is currently being discussed in the 
                    form of possible IGF "recommendations" etc.). So a quest for 
                    identification/assessment/determination of "impacts" is 
                    really beside the point.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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