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<P>Eric and all,</P>
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<P> I for one could not agree more. Our INEgroup members voted in favor of this preference years ago,</P>
<P>some were then and a few still are Syracuse students. Unfortunately Milton has a different idea or idology</P>
<P>that is a hobby hourse of a much different breed. From my and our members perspective that</P>
<P>hobby hourse is sway back and would best serve the Internet community by being either put</P>
<P>out to pasture or sent to the Dog Food factory for processing into Dog Food and other byproducts</P>
<P>for ecological enrichment. Yet still I respect Miltons right to express his opinions in any manner</P>
<P>he so chooses. I can only hope that the folly of same is plainly evident. The old gray mair just</P>
<P>ain't what she used to be! >:(<BR><BR><BR></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid">-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Eric Dierker <COGITOERGOSUM@SBCGLOBAL.NET><BR>Sent: Sep 19, 2009 11:15 AM <BR>To: governance@lists.cpsr.org, Milton L Mueller <MUELLER@SYR.EDU>, Meryem Marzouki <MARZOUKI@RAS.EU.ORG><BR>Cc: ericdierker@sbcglobal.net <BR>Subject: RE: [governance] Letter to Rod Beckstrom <BR><BR>
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<DIV>Why when we look at Internet Governance do we fall prey to the same old wolves that would keep us in the same old box.</DIV>
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<DIV>"de" this and "anti" that. Believe it or not we are not required to speak in the same old nationalistic paradigms. We are not bound by these old idioms and wonderfully nastalgic philosphic diagrams. </DIV>
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<DIV>Why not speak in terms of "co-peratives" "combines" "synergism"? Why not offer up the notion that what the "We the people" want and need can be "capitalized" on -- and that is OK.</DIV>
<DIV>Why not offer up the principles that goodwill can be good living. Why not promote the Ideas that Communal and Demo are not mutually exclusive and that economics can do quite well reflecting the peoples needs rather than dictating them.</DIV>
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<DIV>We have got to begin by our view and vision. We got to got to got to stop seeing a problem and begin to get used to and expecting to see solutions. We got to start looking past and through our differences and start seeing our commonalities.</DIV>
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<DIV>Our Global Internet Social and Technical Environment deserves stewards who are willing to drop the old clubs and begin new ones based upon our new capacities to create and destroy. WE need the energy of the young and the capabilities of the old. We need human social infrastructure that is adaptable and inclusive.</DIV>
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<DIV>"When what you have done, 40 times, no longer works -- get all crazy and try something new, you may find that the pain of change is overwhelmed by the sweetness of success"</DIV>
<DIV>ed -2001 on the 911 tragedy<BR><BR>--- On <B>Fri, 9/18/09, Milton L Mueller <I><mueller@syr.edu></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: Milton L Mueller <mueller@syr.edu><BR>Subject: RE: [governance] Letter to Rod Beckstrom<BR>To: "governance@lists.cpsr.org" <governance@lists.cpsr.org>, "Meryem Marzouki" <marzouki@ras.eu.org><BR>Date: Friday, September 18, 2009, 7:22 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=plainMail><BR><BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> From: Meryem Marzouki [mailto:<A href="http://us.mc839.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=marzouki@ras.eu.org" ymailto="mailto:marzouki@ras.eu.org">marzouki@ras.eu.org</A>]<BR>> To Milton: liberal (in the political, not the economical, sense) <BR><BR>Sorry, you take one you gotta take the other. <BR><BR>> liberal and<BR>> democratic norms of governance don't necessarily imply "de-<BR>> nationalization" (and vice-versa!). <BR><BR>In the context of global governance of the Internet, I am afraid they do. <BR>But of course you are right, " This is only one ideological<BR>> viewpoint.<BR><BR>____________________________________________________________<BR>You received this message as a subscriber on the list:<BR> <A href="http://us.mc839.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=governance@lists.cpsr.org" ymailto="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</A><BR>To be removed from the list, send any message to:<BR> <A href="http://us.mc839.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=governance-unsubscribe@lists.cpsr.org" ymailto="mailto:governance-unsubscribe@lists.cpsr.org">governance-unsubscribe@lists.cpsr.org</A><BR><BR>For all list information and functions, see:<BR> <A href="http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance" target=_blank>http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance</A><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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