<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><DIV>I think McTim meant to write:</DIV>
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<DIV>How on earth can a thinking person not say this?<BR><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 9/7/09, Ginger Paque <I><gpaque@gmail.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: Ginger Paque <gpaque@gmail.com><BR>Subject: Re: [governance] Statement by IGC supporting rights and principles<BR>To: governance@lists.cpsr.org<BR>Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 8:12 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV id=yiv619430522><FONT face=Arial>McTim, could you explain why you say: </FONT><BR><PRE>"How on earth can we justify saying this?"</PRE><FONT face=Arial><BR>I am sorry that I do not have time to document any cases, but I hope someone else will. These are some quick links I found, but did not review:<BR><BR>There have been proposals by governments to implement some kind of filtering or censorship in several countries (I believe)<BR>See: <A class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="http://www.efa.org.au/Issues/Censor/cens3.html" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.efa.org.au/Issues/Censor/cens3.html</A><BR><BR>China <A class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China</A><BR><BR>Austrailia <A class=moz-txt-link-freetext
href="http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24568137-2862,00.html" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24568137-2862,00.html</A><BR><A class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="http://www.efa.org.au/Issues/Censor/cens1.html" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.efa.org.au/Issues/Censor/cens1.html</A><BR><BR>France <A class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship</A><BR><A class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="http://koeus.wordpress.com/2008/06/13/france-joins-the-list-of-internet-censoring-countries/" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://koeus.wordpress.com/2008/06/13/france-joins-the-list-of-internet-censoring-countries/</A><BR><BR>Germany.<BR><A class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="http://netzpolitik.org/2009/the-dawning-of-internet-censorship-in-germany/" target=_blank
rel=nofollow>http://netzpolitik.org/2009/the-dawning-of-internet-censorship-in-germany/</A><BR><A class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="http://opennet.net/blog/2009/01/internet-censorship-germany" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://opennet.net/blog/2009/01/internet-censorship-germany</A><BR><BR>While I do agree that one has the right to JOIN an network that includes and excludes certain topics, much as any association or club might do, I do not think a government can IMPOSE these restrictions on a segment of the Internet.<BR><BR>I am in a rush today, so I may have missed something obvious here. Sorry if that is the case. Either way, I would appreciate a clarification.<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>Best,<BR>Ginger<BR><BR></FONT>McTim wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE>On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Lisa Horner<A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="http://us.mc839.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=lisa@global-partners.co.uk" target=_blank rel=nofollow ymailto="mailto:lisa@global-partners.co.uk"><lisa@global-partners.co.uk></A> wrote:
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE>DRAFT STATEMENT - RIGHTS AND PRINCIPLES
The Caucus [and undersigned DCs] repeat their request that the programme for IGF-4 in Egypt gives the required attention to human rights. The WSIS Declaration and Tunis Agenda reaffirmed the centrality of human rights in the information society, but human rights and associated principles have received very little attention at the IGF so far. This is problematic as:
• Fundamental human right such as the rights to freedom of expression, privacy and education are threatened by current internet governance processes and practice.
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How on earth can we justify saying this?
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