<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 8:04 PM, jefsey <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jefsey@jefsey.com">jefsey@jefsey.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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Dear Joe,<br>
some more nationalistic bragging. </div></blockquote><div><br>No - not really. Although Bell is the undisputed inventor of the telephone as far as marketing is concerned .. the truth is somewhat complex. I don't believe Bell invented the phone first but he did have a great marketing department behind him.<br>
<div><div class="im"><blockquote type="cite"><br>Actually it is not. Most of the parts (datagram, "network of
network", etc. [Louis Pouzin], DNS ["11" distributed logic
of telephone and servers directory service on Minitel, the root file of
us in Saint-Cloud
(<a href="http://intlnet.org/intlhist.htm" target="_blank">
http://intlnet.org/intlhist.htm</a>)) of the Internet are of French
origin.<br><br></blockquote></div><div class="im">Yes I agree. Many people built the Internet .. but bottom line the goose that laid the golden egg was<span lang="ru"> Спутник. </span> October 4th 1957 was a brave new day for America. And every ninetysix minutes that Russian satellite passed over the USA and went beep beep beep.<br>
<br>That little beep shook the U.S. government to it's core. Shortly after that military funding was significantly increased - the military industrial complex was born and they needed reliable computer systems. The internet was a perfect solution to military needs. Internet protocol is designed to route around error. If one mainframe goes down due to a military strike against the facility you just route the traffic to another containing a backup - one example of the many benefits they saw back then.<br>
<br>So I agree with you many were involved - including Louis who built the basic framework for TCP/IP - Cerf just took the credit. But if it was not for U.S. government driven need the Internet as we know it today would not exist.<br>
<br>So they have every right to take credit for it. But I don't think they will. Internet protocol is revolutionary in that it places control with the end user. Thats dangerous. Once the NSF figured out the Internet was a significant liability - and dangerous - it became an administrative nightmare hurtling around Washington like a grenade with the pin taken out.<br>
<br>Let's not forget the whole thing with ICANN and the numbers administrators is one of the biggest scam against the U.S. public in the history of America. These duties were once - and still are - under U.S. government contract. <br>
<br>And the scam is the fact that once the U.S. government loses control of names and especially numbers those resources which clearly belong to the American people are put in the hands of a small group of people for zero dollars. <br>
<br>Thats the biggest fraud in U.S. history against the U.S. government taxpayer.<br><br>I don't think the U.S. government has figured that out yet that they are effectively giving away the property of people of the United States to a group of jackasses trying to play monopoly with names and numbers.<br>
<br>When the American public wakes up and realizes what was given away - they are going to be pissed.<br><br>cheers<br>joe baptista<br><div></div><div class="h5"><br><br>
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<dd>Joe Baptista wrote:<br>
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<dd>On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:22 PM, Avri Doria
<<a href="mailto:avri@psg.com" target="_blank">avri@psg.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>
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<dd>and what is going to happen around the world as US insists that the
DNS is<br>
</dd><dd>theirs, all theirs?<br><br>
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</dd><dd>Thats is a difficult statement. But it can be proven that when it
comes to<br>
</dd><dd>DNS the U.S. has played the lead role and it could easily be argued
that the<br>
</dd><dd>DNS is in fact a U.S. invention.<br><br>
</dd><dd>cheers<br>
</dd><dd>joe baptista<br><br>
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