You are right Karl - what is important is to prevent collisions. That was at one time to be the job of the TLDA - the organization who's email address your using.<br><br>Unfortunately the TLDA has ended up being a joke and a significant failure in the eyes of it's own membership. When I bootstrapped the TLDA two years ago with you we had over 30 members. Today you have five left.<br>
<br>I point these difficult facts out to you in case anyone mistakes your comments for informed commentary. It is difficult to be considered informed when the organization one represent is a failure.<br><br>cheers<br>joe baptista<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 10:39 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kpeters@tldainc.org">kpeters@tldainc.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I believe the US congress wants to keep ICANN on a short leash internally, but impose a mandate on them, withing those contraints, to be international in scope and understanding through bottom-up listening. It can well be argued that they have failed in much of that listening so far, but this is how I justify the two apparently divergent positions.<br>
Nations and groups of nations should feel free to set up their own DNS including whatever they like. No one is constrained to live with ICANN except the US, and many of us use other DNS for a wider view of the internet, too.<br>
The main caution is to work not to allow collisions in the namespace.<br>
Given the trend in American government, it is not so clear that you will always be able to see a free press through ICANN and you may well be better off with your own.<br>
-Karl E. Peters<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
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Quoting Vanda Scartezini <<a href="mailto:vanda@uol.com.br" target="_blank">vanda@uol.com.br</a>>:<br>
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I do believe the Congressmen in the US has the right to advocate the<br>
permanence of ICANN under the US control, as I believe any Congress in the<br>
world will react if in their places. But I don't see a reason to not<br>
continue to state the need to ICANN to become really international.<br>
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