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<DIV>(sorry for delay in response to your very appropriate question - Off picking Blackberries, trying not to catch fish, Hiking, swimming and engaging in general all around conservation efforts within our riparian habitats)</DIV>
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<DIV><BR>The By-Laws are really very loose when it comes to the GA. The transfer from Dnso to Gnso or whatever left it in the lurch. But one thing is clear -- it is not up to the participants in the GA to keep it running it is up to you.</DIV>
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<DIV>Off your site;</DIV>
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<DIV>Avri and all,<BR><BR> True enough that the NCUC is nothing at all like the GA. As to<BR>whether that is a "Good" thing of not of course is a matter of<BR>opinion. The miss characterization of the GA as a "Snake pit"<BR>is hardly honest. Yes, it has at times been contentious, but where<BR>there are issues that lend themselves to very starkly divided opinions,<BR>often are and should be contentious.<BR><BR> In any event, the GA at one time had over 900 participants. Due<BR>to many factors, over a few years that number has dwindled to<BR>what I understand is around 200 or so. Many have contended that<BR>such a reverse in interest was largely due to a lack of ICON staff<BR>and Board members participation in a open an transparent manner,<BR>AND due to a lack of some being more interested is trying to<BR>enforce on others how to express themselves, ergo lacking free<BR>speech acumen and consideration
accordingly.<BR><BR> So Miltons assertions and Erics remarks in respect to same, are<BR>entirely accurate. BTW Avri, Eric, Danny, and myself have many<BR>times pointed out directly to you and most of the GNSO council<BR>members exactly which bylaw has been continually violated. In<BR>any event, you are perfectly able to look that fact and the bylaws<BR>up for yourself I would hope.<BR><BR>Avri Doria wrote:<BR><BR>> On 23 Jul 2009, at 21:33, Eric Dierker wrote:<BR>><BR>> > The constant monitoring, failure to provide for and downright abuse<BR>> > of participants in the General Assembly of the GNSO in contradiction<BR>> > of their own by-laws is proof of Milton's assertions.<BR>><BR>> which bylaw are you referring to?<BR>><BR>> at one point i was very interested in seeing the GA list given more of<BR>> a focus, but the support from the list was never there - it continued<BR>> to act like a snake
pit. and it never got itself to the point where it<BR>> could get to a coherent consensus like the IGC can - even though they<BR>> are both civil society efforts open to everyone.<BR>><BR>> further, to compare the NCUC and it efforts to those of the GA List is<BR>> very insulting to NCUC - they are nothing alike.<BR>><BR>> a.<BR>><BR>> ____________________________________________________________<BR>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:<BR>> <A href="http://us.mc839.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=governance@lists.cpsr.org" target=_blank rel=nofollow>governance@lists.cpsr.org</A><BR>> To be removed from the list, send any message to:<BR>> <A href="http://us.mc839.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=governance-unsubscribe@lists.cpsr.org" target=_blank rel=nofollow>governance-unsubscribe@lists.cpsr.org</A><BR>><BR>> For all list information and functions,
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