<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 9:35 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cogitoergosum@sbcglobal.net">cogitoergosum@sbcglobal.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<div>(sorry for delay in response to your very appropriate question - Off picking Blackberries, trying not to catch fish, Hiking, swimming and engaging in general all around conservation efforts within our riparian habitats)</div>
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<div><br>The By-Laws are really very loose when it comes to the GA. The transfer from Dnso to Gnso or whatever left it in the lurch. But one thing is clear -- it is not up to the participants in the GA to keep it running it is up to you.</div>
</div></div></td></tr></tbody></table></blockquote><div><br>Exactly. Which brings us to another point. When am I being reinstated on the GA. Do I have to press a button and make ICANN jump?<br><br>cheers<br>joe baptista<br>
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<div>Off your site;</div>
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<div><b>Under the New ICANN Bylaws:</b></div>
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<div>9. Upon the adoption of this Transition Article, and until further action by the ICANN Board, the GNSO Council shall assume responsibility for the DNSO General Assembly e-mail announcement and discussion lists. </div>
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<div>The GA mailing list will remain open and the voluntary monitors are:</div>
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<div>Avri and all,<br><br> True enough that the NCUC is nothing at all like the GA. As to<br>whether that is a "Good" thing of not of course is a matter of<br>opinion. The miss characterization of the GA as a "Snake pit"<br>
is hardly honest. Yes, it has at times been contentious, but where<br>there are issues that lend themselves to very starkly divided opinions,<br>often are and should be contentious.<br><br> In any event, the GA at one time had over 900 participants. Due<br>
to many factors, over a few years that number has dwindled to<br>what I understand is around 200 or so. Many have contended that<br>such a reverse in interest was largely due to a lack of ICON staff<br>and Board members participation in a open an transparent manner,<br>
AND due to a lack of some being more interested is trying to<br>enforce on others how to express themselves, ergo lacking free<br>speech acumen and consideration
accordingly.<br><br> So Miltons assertions and Erics remarks in respect to same, are<br>entirely accurate. BTW Avri, Eric, Danny, and myself have many<br>times pointed out directly to you and most of the GNSO council<br>
members exactly which bylaw has been continually violated. In<br>any event, you are perfectly able to look that fact and the bylaws<br>up for yourself I would hope.<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><br>Avri Doria wrote:<br>
<br>> On 23 Jul 2009, at 21:33, Eric Dierker wrote:<br>><br>> > The constant monitoring, failure to provide for and downright abuse<br>> > of participants in the General Assembly of the GNSO in contradiction<br>
> > of their own by-laws is proof of Milton's assertions.<br>><br>> which bylaw are you referring to?<br>><br>> at one point i was very interested in seeing the GA list given more of<br>> a focus, but the support from the list was never there - it continued<br>
> to act like a snake
pit. and it never got itself to the point where it<br>> could get to a coherent consensus like the IGC can - even though they<br>> are both civil society efforts open to everyone.<br>><br>> further, to compare the NCUC and it efforts to those of the GA List is<br>
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