<div>Hello Ian</div>
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<div>One reason why there has been so much focus on ICANN related issues is that it has been a crucial point of time for ICANN with the new CEO selection process, review of JPA, the issues related to new gTLDs and the introduction of IDNs. </div>
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<div>The participants of the list have possibly been concerned about what is happening to and at ICANN as ICANN happens to be very important. </div>
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<div>That is possibly the reason for Karl's perception but the observation that the participants are not interested in issues beyond those in ICANN's realm is not right.</div>
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<div>Sivasubramanian Muthusamy<br><br></div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:02 AM, Ian Peter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">Hi Karl,<br><br>Yes, this list can tend to become ICANN-obsessed, and to a lesser degree<br>this is also true of IGF. I agree this is not a good thing either for this<br>
list or for a sensible discussion of internet governance and where it should<br>head.<br><br>But I think the reality we face is that it is far easier to criticise an<br>incumbent organisation with all its faults than to take a broader view of<br>
internet governance and gain support and understanding for the larger scale<br>governance issues the Internet is going to face. Yes, it's a problem, but<br>how we move to the bigger picture escapes me at this point of time...<br>
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<div class="h5"><br><br><br><br>On 7/07/09 12:22 AM, "<a href="mailto:kpeters@tldainc.org">kpeters@tldainc.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:kpeters@tldainc.org">kpeters@tldainc.org</a>> wrote:<br><br>> If I might add one further question to the very interesting<br>
> questions of Mr. Drake;<br>><br>> To what extent does this forum restrict itself to the internet<br>> as it relatres to ICANN and the US DoC to resolve internet policies<br>> and does it in fact have the freedom to discuss the real and dynamic<br>
> internet (for better or worse) making ICANN less and less relevant on<br>> the international scene? Every time I have mentioned internet activity<br>> outside of ICANN, this list, as it is very good at doing, completely<br>
> ignores the subject as if not seeing it will make it not exist. Is<br>> this an IGF policy? Is your future tied exclusively to ICANN? Clear<br>> answers to these questions will tell a lot more about your future than<br>
> answers to all the other questions combined.<br>> Based on past experience, I expect dumb silence to this question<br>> but would welcome thought out response!<br>><br>> -Karl E. Peters<br>> <a href="mailto:kpeters@tldainc.org">kpeters@tldainc.org</a><br>
><br>> Quoting William Drake <<a href="mailto:william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch">william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch</a>>:<br>><br>>> Hi,<br>>><br>>> Skimming and deleting over morning coffee, a random thought occurs: is<br>
>> this still the listserv of the IGC? It hasn't been obvious of late.<br>>> It's been quite awhile since there much traffic from people who are in<br>>> the IGC discussing the sort of concerns for which we established the<br>
>> list seven years ago, and it's not like there are no live issues out<br>>> there. For example, do we not intend to submit a group statement on<br>>> the IGF review by the July 15 deadline? We had some preliminary<br>
>> discussion on this in May and people indicated a preference for some<br>>> focused dialogue leading to a statement of more than a couple<br>>> paragraphs outlining why the caucus favors renewal. Given the rather<br>
>> variable inputs the UN and the IGF secretariat (for the Sharm<br>>> synthesis paper) will be receiving from member governments, one would<br>>> think this is an important thing to do.<br>>><br>>> Comments on the review process so far are at<br>
>> <a href="http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/index.php/component/chronocontact/?chronoformn" target="_blank">http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/index.php/component/chronocontact/?chronoformn</a><br>>> ame=FormalConsult032009ListView<br>
>> (Great URL, I love the website ;-)<br>>><br>>> The questions we are asked to address are:<br>>><br>>> 1. To what extent has the IGF addressed the mandate set out for it in<br>>> the Tunis Agenda?<br>
>> 2. To what extent has the IGF embodied the WSIS principles?<br>>> 3. What has the impact of the IGF been in direct or indirect terms?<br>>> Has it impacted you or your stakeholder group/institution/government?<br>
>> Has it acted as a catalyst for change?<br>>> 4. How effective are IGF processes in addressing the tasks set out for<br>>> it, including the functioning of the Multistakeholder Advisory Group<br>>> (MAG), Secretariat and open consultations?<br>
>> 5. Is it desirable to continue the IGF past its initial five-year<br>>> mandate, and why/why not?<br>>> 6. If the continuation of the Forum is recommended, what improvements<br>>> would you suggest in terms of its working methods, functioning and<br>
>> processes?<br>>> 7. Do you have any other comments?<br>>><br>>> Surely we can manage answers to these in the next ten days, no?<br>>><br>>> Best,<br>>><br>>> Bill<br>>><br>
>> ***********************************************************<br>>> William J. Drake<br>>> Senior Associate<br>>> Centre for International Governance<br>>> Graduate Institute of International and<br>
>> Development Studies<br>>> Geneva, Switzerland<br>>> <a href="mailto:william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch">william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch</a><br>>> <a href="http://www.graduateinstitute.ch/cig/drake.html" target="_blank">www.graduateinstitute.ch/cig/drake.html</a><br>
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