<font size="4"><span style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;">FWIW, there are truly more persuasive views about what's happening in Iran than what CNN is reporting. For example, isn't is passing strange that a fella who was a hardline Prime Minister back in the day is now being celebrated as a leading liberal? What happened on the "road to Damascus"?</span><br style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;">
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<font size="4"><br><a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0609/23745.html" target="_blank">http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0609/23745.html</a><br>
<br><a href="http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/KF16Ak05.html" target="_blank">http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/KF16Ak05.html</a><br><br><a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig10/van-troostwijk1.html" target="_blank">http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig10/van-troostwijk1.html</a><br>
<br><a href="http://www.counterpunch.org/amin06222009.html">http://www.counterpunch.org/amin06222009.html</a><br>
</font><br><font size="4"><span style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;">Hmmmmmm.........the numbers are not adding up.</span><br style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;">We know what happens when our august leaders promote "free and fair elections" in the periphery that reject their preferred candidates/parties. See Hamas, for example. </span><br style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;">Something is afoot in Iran. What we know for sure is that CNN, the NYT and WP aren't telling the whole story.</span><br style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;">Carlton Samuels</span></font>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Eric Dierker <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cogitoergosum@sbcglobal.net" target="_blank">cogitoergosum@sbcglobal.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>I am most intrigued by your last line. You use the past tense term "understood" instead of a more conspicuous present tense. Perhaps this was a Freudian slip, missed grammar,,, or better yet -- is there something you could share with us regarding the current regime in Iran being relegated to history at this time?</div>
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<div>Has open and unstoppable Internet information flow toppled the government there?? Is it possible that much like the USSR, the information received has created a luminare' into an unsustainable facade of governance? Is the "west" again just too slow to see the success of free information and speech?</div>
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<div>Is it true that lists such as this have slowly eroded the pillars of ignorance and helped to shed the veil of deceit?<br><br>--- On <b>Tue, 6/23/09, <span>Nyangkwe</span> Agien Aaron <i><<a href="mailto:nyangkweagien@gmail.com" target="_blank">nyangkweagien@gmail.com</a>></i></b> wrote:<br>
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<br>Subject: Re: [governance] WSJ: Iran's Web Spying Aided By Western Technology<br></div>To: <a href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a>, "Ben Wagner" <<a href="mailto:Ben@gsi.uni-muenchen.de" target="_blank">Ben@gsi.uni-muenchen.de</a>><br>
Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 11:43 AM<div><div></div><div><br><br>
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<div>That is the "mighty West", always trying to eat its cake and having it. I cannot unbderstand the madenning call for freedom of expression by the so called Western countries and the sudden development of devices to stymie free expression.</div>
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<div>It is all the same business: third world nationalist governments are never condoned by the West who in their place, prefer less power-base election riggers and pilferers. See the red carpet given Western Leaders to the so called third world "elected Leaders"</div>
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<div>Iran understood how to deal with the west. Let them roost.</div>
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<div>Aaron <br><br> </div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 6/22/09, <b class="gmail_sendername">Ben Wagner</b> <<a href="http://us.mc839.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Ben@gsi.uni-muenchen.de" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ben@gsi.uni-muenchen.de</a>> wrote:</span>
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<div>The list of DPI-using countries which censor their populace seems to grow by day. It also seems that the line between censorship and surveillance is becoming increasingly blurred:</div>
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<div><b>Iran's Web Spying Aided By Western Technology </b></div>
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<div>The Iranian regime has developed, with the assistance of European telecommunications companies, one of the world's most sophisticated mechanisms for controlling and censoring the Internet, allowing it to examine the content of individual online communications on a massive scale.</div>
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