Karl - I have no idea what your going on about - as usual. In fact the site you are a looking at is the English default site for Peking University. The site seen at <a href="http://xn--1lq90ic7fzpc.xn--fiqs8s/">http://xn--1lq90ic7fzpc.xn--fiqs8s/</a> is the same as <a href="http://www.pku.edu.cn/">http://www.pku.edu.cn/</a> - the only difference is that one site is available via an IANA TLD (.cn) and the other is available via a Chinese National TLD (.xn--fiqs8s). In fact in Chinese the proper URL for this is <a href="http://xn--1lq90ic7fzpc.xn--fiqs8s/">http://北京大学.中国/</a> and as you can see uses Chinese characters.<br>
<br>This is not a surprise to ICANN nor any one else who has been paying attention to China. The Chinese National TLDs have existed since early 2005 - and were tested I think way back in 2003.<br><br>The only point I was making is that 300 millions people in China can see the Chinese TLD system - the rest of the world under ICANN can't. I don't even thing the TLDA can see them.<br>
<br>cheers<br>joe baptista<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Karl E. Peters <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kpeters@tldainc.org">kpeters@tldainc.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><div></div><div class="h5">Does the site you can see through your posted link look substantially<br>
different than this one (<a href="http://en.pku.edu.cn/" target="_blank">http://en.pku.edu.cn/</a> ) that came up through<br>
<a href="http://ASK.COM" target="_blank">ASK.COM</a>? If they are different, there is a story here. Otherwise, the<br>
ramification is the obvious for ICANN, it is ever more marginalized. Of<br>
course, that will come as a surprise only to ICANN. The rest of the<br>
world can see the writing on the wall...<br>
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> -------- Original Message --------<br>
> Subject: [governance] Can anyone surf to peking university?<br>
> From: Joe Baptista <<a href="mailto:baptista@publicroot.org">baptista@publicroot.org</a>><br>
> Date: Mon, June 15, 2009 11:53 am<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a>, At-Large Worldwide<br>
> <<a href="mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org">at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>><br>
> This is the official URL for Peking University - it's in IDN<br>
> <a href="http://xn--1lq90ic7fzpc.xn--fiqs8s/" target="_blank">http://xn--1lq90ic7fzpc.xn--fiqs8s/</a><br>
> how many people here can surf to that URL? I can see it. but any one on<br>
> the ICANN root can't. Chinese domains can only be seen in china or to those<br>
> outside china who see the chinese root system.<br>
> cheers<br>
> joe baptista<br>
> p.s. where is icann in this equation?<br>
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