<font size="4"><span style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;">Milton:</span><br style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;">Depends on how you interpret the meaning of "statistics". As an old Washington hand, I happen to know that companies with paid lobbyists, PACs and deep pockets tend to have multiplier effects in the Congress that pales the single name identifier.</span><br style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;">Carlton</span><br style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;"></font> <br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Milton L Mueller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu">mueller@syr.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Carlton:</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Statistics are meaningless here. </font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font></span><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Large trademark owners and other major U.S.-based business
interests (VeriSign, GoDaddy) want to continue the JPA because it allows them to
lobby the U.S.G. to get what they want if they don't get it in ICANN. these
people cultivate very strong relationships with U.S. Congress.
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">ISOC-related people and organizations support
independents for ICANN because they are basically in control of
it.</font></span></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span></span></font> </div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span>Independent analysts of the situation, such as IGP,
APC, the Swiss ccTLD registry, want strong action to fix ICANN's problems, but
see unilateral US control as part of those problems rather than as part of
the solution.</span></font></div>
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<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span>I
don't know what's up with the African Union guy, I found his comments to be
incoherent, perhaps you know where he's coming from? anyway he makes the same
mistake so many others make, which is "if there's anything wrong with ICANN,
then continuing the JPA will somehow make it better." which is way, way non
sequitur. </span></font></div>
<p><font size="2">Milton Mueller<br>Professor, Syracuse University School of
Information Studies<br>XS4All Professor, Delft University of
Technology<br>------------------------------<br>Internet Governance
Project:<br><a href="http://internetgovernance.org/" target="_blank">http://internetgovernance.org</a><br></font></p>
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<font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com" target="_blank">carlton.samuels@gmail.com</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com" target="_blank">carlton.samuels@gmail.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Carlton
Samuels<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 08, 2009 10:52 AM<br><b>To:</b>
<a href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a>; Milton L Mueller<br><b>Subject:</b> Re:
[governance] Summary of IGP comments on the NTIA ICANN
proceeding<br></font><br></div>
<div></div>I have been following the submissions and I would argue that purely
on the stats, it appears the comments are decidedly in favour of continuance
of JPA or instantiation of some form of USG oversight, no?<br><br>As it
happens, the African Union is for continuance. So are Verizon, VeriSign
and some organization called the Coalition for Online Trademark Protection
along with assorted others. Vint Cerf and ISOC are for concluding JPA.
<br><br>Carlton Samuels<br>The University of the West Indies<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Milton L Mueller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu" target="_blank">mueller@syr.edu</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Only
the summary, please go to the NTIA site for the complete comments.<br><a href="http://www.ntia.doc.gov/comments/2009/dnstransition/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.ntia.doc.gov/comments/2009/dnstransition/index.html</a><br>
------<br><br>"The
global challenges we face demand global institutions that work."<br>-
President Barack Obama, 2008<br><br>ICANN lacks accountability and its
processes are full of problems, but the JPA is not the right tool to use to
fix them. The JPA contributes to ICANN's failings. Although it was intended
to provide a vehicle for impartially assessing the adequacy of ICANN's legal
and institutional framework for the global Internet, in reality it does
nothing but invite the stakeholders in one privileged country to complain to
their own government about policy outcomes they don't like. The U.S.
government needs to let the JPA expire, and immediately initiate an
international agreement that formalizes and completes the transition of
ICANN to a stable form of multi-stakeholder global governance rooted in a
nonprofit corporation. This international instrument should be used to
provide a shared, global legal framework that can keep ICANN independent but
accountable. It should be designed to keep ICANN focused on its narrow
coordinating mission, to restore internal accountability of the Board to its
membership, to check abuses by ICANN's Board, to delegate authority over
ccTLDs to national governments, and to limit interference in or abuse of
ICANN by governments. By taking the lead, the US can gain buy-in from other
governments for its own model and ensure that the transition does not harm
any of its own legitimate interests. But to succeed in completing the
transition, the U.S. will have to win the acceptance of a critical mass of
other countries and peoples.<br><br>Dr. Milton Mueller, Syracuse University
School of Information Studies and XS4All Professor, Technology University of
Delft, Netherlands<br>Brenden Kuerbis, Doctoral candidate, Syracuse
University School of Information Studies<br>Dr. Michel van Eeten, Technology
University of Delft, Netherlands<br>Dr. John Mathiason, Syracuse University,
Maxwell School of Citizenship and Public Affairs<br>Dr. Derrick Cogburn,
School of International Service, American University Dr. Lee McKnight,
Syracuse University School of Information
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