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well it's obvious that ICANN is a dysfunctional and unaccountable
organisation that falls short of the basic standards for an economic
regulator. no one on this list is arguing that ICANN be transferred to
the United Nationas. the question is what to do in the context of the
JPA expiry to propose some form of accountability for ICANN that meets
the priniciples set for internet governance at the WSIS -
multilateralism, transparency, democracy and multi-stakeholder
participation, which all governments agreed to. as i said earlier it
would be good if the IGC statement made some comment on Qs 3, 4 and 5 -
perhaps you could suggest some text on those questions that would help
the submission in a practical way.<br>
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willie<br>
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Karl E. Peters wrote:
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<div>Greetings all,</div>
<div> Pardon my abruptness here, but it appears you are all
dreamers. Do you REALLY believe that an ICANN that has been so
resisitant to ANY stakeholder influence, as opposed to major commercial
interest, will somehow become more responsive to stakeholder interests
when turned loose from its ONLY non-commercial responsibility? </div>
<div> In my oppinion, looking at ICANN history that has been VERY
consistant, this belief is lunacy! Perhaps it is the ideal goal and
something we should demand, but DO NOT ever think it will happen that
way. It appears too many here work from ivory towers where it can be
believed that a leopard can change its spots if allowed sufficient
freedoms. I obseve an ICANN that grossly overpays its top leadership,
hires legions of people with no real understanding of the history of
the internet and the real challenges ahead, makes almost all TLD
decisions on a financial rewards basis and not on other potential
benefit to the community, has ignored one TLD operation to delegate
.BIZ to someone willing to pay them more than the original holder (Leah
Gallegos and the Atlantic Root Newtork) and then show their
"conscience" in refusing to delegate .WEB to its founder (Chris
Ambler), one who had actually gone though all the hoops and paid all
the overblown fees, under the guise that others had also tried to set
up .WEBs on other roots and it might not be "fair". These two
contradictory decisions came at the SAME meeting of ICANN, not over a
period of years and through policy changes. </div>
<div> ICANN does not work from a set of rules, it works to its own
pesonal advantage. Regardless of whether you may think the US
government and people should walk away from what it set into being, you
can not possibly believe that ICANN will be better run without clear
and forced oversight! Yes, we can say that the stakeholders will
somehow rise up and be more active, but ICANN's only reasn for even
pretending to listen to us in the past and to today is that it is
required of it by the JPA. Even with this requirement, ICANN has been
effectively unresponsive and irresponsible.</div>
<div> Turned loose from non-copmmercial responsibility by the US
government, it will simply continue to play that it listens to us, give
lip service to all of its contributing think tanks like this one, and
then seek the best ways to afford its leadership the exhorbitant
salaries and all of its conferees the highest luxury possible in
"seeking the public good". </div>
<div> Does anyone here REALLY believe ICANN will change? Some may
say that putting it under the UN or like body</div>
<div>will give it sufficient oversight. I suggest that putting ICANN
with the UN will multiply the problems because the UN is the perfect
model of bloated, self-serving bureaucracy, corrupt and inefficient to
the core. <br>
I am sure my post will be officially ignored on this list as only
those posts that go along with well-established norms of thought here
are actually responded to, but at least the questions have been asked
and whatever you do, it will be with the knowledge of what will happen,
based on all history we have to study. There is nothing more I can do
here.<br>
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-Karl E. Peters<br>
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