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Hello<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:KLv6v3+4sh$JFAG5@perry.co.uk" type="cite">In
message <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:49FDDECC.5060004@mdpi.net"><49FDDECC.5060004@mdpi.net></a>,
at 20:13:32 on Sun, 3 May
2009, Dr. Francis MUGUET <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:muguet@mdpi.net"><muguet@mdpi.net></a> writes <br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">It appears that the call for those hearings
has not been inclusive, if <br>
not secretive... <br>
EU Commission hearing on future Internet Governance arrangement ( 06 <br>
May 2009, Brussels, Belgium ) <br>
</blockquote>
<br>
It's not a "call", the meeting is invitation only - which is not itself
sinister as the Commission clearly wants to hear from specific
organisations and people firmly established in the IG space (and
attending IGF meetings is a plausible indication of that). If that
doesn't include you, then you should examine why that might be the
case. <br>
</blockquote>
This is twisted non-inclusive arrogant logic, it is not for the
uninvited to examine why they are not invited !!!<br>
but to the organizers and invited ones to ask questions to
themselves.... <br>
<br>
For example, one question is why Louis Pouzin, one the very few
european internet pioneer is not invited...<br>
... but he is invited in Boston... <br>
<br>
I am raising the question why a few lobbyist firms are invited instead
? <br>
<blockquote cite="mid:KLv6v3+4sh$JFAG5@perry.co.uk" type="cite"> <br>
<blockquote type="cite">For logistical reasons participation is by
invitation only. <br>
</blockquote>
<br>
My guess is they couldn't book a bigger room because there's too many
other meetings going on that day. <br>
</blockquote>
You are too kind<br>
Well, this trick is well known.... this is quite gross... <br>
<blockquote cite="mid:KLv6v3+4sh$JFAG5@perry.co.uk" type="cite"> <br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">but the call refers to the Internet
Governance Forum (IGF) ? <br>
</blockquote>
<br>
The original invitation</blockquote>
It would be interesting if you are kind enough to post the text of this
invitation <br>
<blockquote cite="mid:KLv6v3+4sh$JFAG5@perry.co.uk" type="cite">
doesn't mention it at all. This meeting is
about IG, not the IGF - <br>
</blockquote>
<br>
strange... the agenda of the <br>
<font class="line"><a target="blank_"
href="http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/policy/internet_gov/index_en.htm">
EU Commission hearing on future Internet Governance arrangement </a> (
06 May 2009, Brussels, Belgium ) <br>
includes the WSIS in the first place....<br>
and the WSIS means the IGF !!!<br>
<br>
</font><b>Hearing on Internet Governance arrangements </b><br>
6 May 2009, 10:00 – 17:15 <br>
Brussels – Charlemagne Building1, Room DURI <br>
<br>
<br>
<i>09:30 Registration & coffee </i><br>
10:00 Introduction by the Commission <br>
10.30 <font color="#ff0000">WSIS </font><br>
11.15 Security & stability <br>
12.00 The role of governments <br>
12.45 Round up morning discussion <br>
<i>13.00 Lunch </i> <br>
14.15 Accountability and legitimacy <br>
15.00 Internationalisation of Internet Governance <br>
<i>15:45 Coffee break </i><br>
16:00 Digital divide <br>
16.45 Round up afternoon discussion <br>
17:00 Concluding remarks <br>
<br>
*** <br>
<b>Theme description </b><br>
1. <font color="#ff0000"><b>WSIS</b>: Progress since WSIS- how far are
we with the implementation of WSIS principles? What are the <br>
new challenges, if any, since WSIS that should be addressed?</font> <br>
2. <b>Security & stability</b> of the Internet remains a key EU
priority. What are the main threats/chal enges? <br>
What should the EU be doing about them in particular with a view to
their international dimension? <br>
3. <b>The role of public authorities</b>: How should public
authorities, in particular governments, respond to their <br>
responsibilities in view of the importance of the Internet to our
economies and societies? What lessons, <br>
if any, should be learnt from the "financial crisis" (e.g. should
self-regulation for critical infrastructures <br>
and services be more closely monitored by governments and relevant
public authorities)? To what <br>
extent are private sector leadership and stronger governmental and
public policy making <br>
complementary and necessary components for the effective management of
the Internet? <br>
4. <b>Accountability and legitimacy</b>: To what extent are
self-regulatory governance bodies accountable to <br>
Internet users world-wide? What problems, if any, are posed by the fact
that many Internet users do <br>
not participate, even indirectly, in the governance processes? Is it
necessary to make governance <br>
fora more accountable to the wider international community and, if so,
how? <br>
5. <b>Internationalisation of Internet Governance: </b>Is it
desirable or necessary to ensure fair participation of <br>
actors in their respective roles from all geographic regions in the
future shaping of the Internet and if <br>
so, how? How can situations be avoided where the imposition of a
particular legal system or <br>
jurisdiction might disadvantage players from outside the jurisdiction
concerned? <br>
6. <b>Digital divide</b>: The future billions of users wil come
largely from developing countries. Should the <br>
existing Internet governance mechanisms be adapted to reflect this
evolution and, if so, how? Should <br>
the interests of those who don’t yet have Internet access be
represented in the policy making <br>
processes and, if so, how? <br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">even if the attendees are all IGF veterans. </blockquote>
but not WSIS veterans... by the way, the list of the invited is known
to the invited ? <br>
<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:KLv6v3+4sh$JFAG5@perry.co.uk" type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">The lead towards the EuroIGF. should be taken
by all open-minded <br>
European stakeholders, involved in the IGF process, <br>
whether in person, or remotely. <br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Anyone could start a "EuroIGF", there are <geo-region>IGF's
springing up all over the place. All that happened was that Catherine
Trautmann won the "first come first served" race for the name.</blockquote>
Is it like a domain name ? !!! <br>
<blockquote cite="mid:KLv6v3+4sh$JFAG5@perry.co.uk" type="cite"> But
then
nothing much happened (as I have explained before). <br>
</blockquote>
There are two ways of looking at an IGF in Europe :<br>
<br>
1) An IG Forum of the EU, with its own organization, mandate distinct
from the IGF,<br>
possibly set up by an act of the EU parliament or the EU commission<br>
<br>
2) A subset of the UN IGF whose members are stakeholders from Europe<br>
( not only the EU, but Europe as defined by the Council of Europe ) <br>
<br>
I would suggest the first one to be called the EuroIGF,<br>
and the second one the IGF-Europe, they are distinct and complementary,<br>
and the EuroIGF could fit into the IGF-Europe.<br>
<br>
It is possible that the EuroIGF might have a more stronger, effective<br>
mandate that the IGF. This could be quite promising....<br>
However, the way the EuroIGF is brought to birth raises eyesbrows<br>
<br>
<font face="Arial" size="2"> </font>as Meryem observed <br>
<i>Business (and when I say business, I really mean the business
sector)
as usual on other issues. IG seems to be seen as a consumer issue only.
</i><br>
and as Jean Louis recently posted :<br>
<font face="Arial" size="2"> <i>EU Commissioner Viviane Reding has
already worked out the Meeting (draft) Report and proposes it for
possible minor amendments and endorsement (see below) by the "invited
partipants".<br>
</i><br>
</font><i></i>The EuroIGF process is not starting well, to say the
least...<br>
<br>
Civil Society should start to promote ASAP an open, transparent
multistakeholder<br>
IGF-Europe, with all stakeholders, EU or non-EU, to counterbalance<br>
the lobbies that seem to have taken control of the EuroIGF process<br>
<br>
Best<br>
<br>
Francis <br>
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