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Dear Jean-Louis<br>
Hello everybody <br>
<br>
I could not agree more with you, after the parliament, now <br>
the commission hearings are a sinister joke.<br>
EU that is posing itself as the defender of freedom and openness in<br>
Un meetings, shame on you ! <br>
I am not proud being an European ! <br>
<br>
It appears that the call for those hearings has not been inclusive, if
not secretive...<br>
<font class="line1"><a target="blank_"
href="http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/policy/internet_gov/index_en.htm">EU
Commission hearing on future Internet Governance arrangement </a> ( 06
May 2009, Brussels, Belgium ) <br>
</font><br>
<i> For logistical reasons participation is by invitation only.<br>
</i>I guess that in North Korea, there are also similar "logistical
reasons"<br>
<br>
It would be interesting to have the list of the invitees ... <br>
it is the least to ask <br>
<br>
But just let me guess... by logistics... would it means that that<br>
the EU commission is paying for travel expenses ?<br>
<br>
Please Milton, one of the few invitees I am aware of, could you tell<br>
us if the EU is paying for your trip ? <br>
<br>
<font class="line1">Jean-Louis has not been invited, me neither, and
none of my friends <br>
that I am aware of. <br>
<br>
Then who are the happy few invited ? <br>
Only the regular of the ICANN meetings ?<br>
but the</font><font class="line1"> call refers to the </font><a
target="_blank" href="http://www.intgovforum.org/">Internet Governance
Forum (IGF) ?</a><br>
.<br>
<font class="line1">Because of this secretive operation, it is not
surprising that there are only<br>
four submissions :<br>
<br>
</font>
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<td> CENTR</td>
<td width="82"> <a target="_blank"
href="http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/policy/internet_gov/docs/centr_%20final.pdf"><img
alt="PDF format" src="cid:part1.05000507.01010709@mdpi.net" border="0"
height="16" width="16"></a></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td> Dr. Milton Mueller</td>
<td width="82"> <a target="_blank"
href="http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/policy/internet_gov/docs/mueller.pdf"><img
alt="PDF format" src="cid:part1.05000507.01010709@mdpi.net" border="0"
height="16" width="16"></a></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td> AFNIC</td>
<td width="82"> <a target="_blank"
href="http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/policy/internet_gov/docs/afnic20090506.pdf"> <img
alt="PDF format" src="cid:part1.05000507.01010709@mdpi.net" border="0"
height="16" width="16"></a></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td> ISOC - ECC</td>
<td width="82"> <a target="_blank"
href="http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/policy/internet_gov/docs/isoc_ep_ig_fin.pdf"> <img
alt="PDF format" src="cid:part1.05000507.01010709@mdpi.net" border="0"
height="16" width="16"></a></td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<br>
<font class="line1">By following this kind of non-open, non-inclusive<br>
procedures, the EU commission and the EU parliament<br>
has lost any political, moral and ethical<br>
legitimacy in taking the leadership in forming the EuroIGF.<br>
<br>
The lead towards the </font><font class="line1"> EuroIGF. should be
taken by all open-minded<br>
European stakeholders, involved in the IGF process, <br>
whether in person, or remotely.<br>
<br>
Best<br>
<br>
Francis <br>
</font><br>
<blockquote cite="mid:E708D331CAF44A2C8971F84D62D46677@PCbureau"
type="cite"><br>
"Roland Perry" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:roland@internetpolicyagency.com"><roland@internetpolicyagency.com></a> wrote
<br>
<br>
<I agree it's likely to be more of a brainstorming session than
people talking to Powerpoint slides>
<br>
<br>
Sorry, this doesn't answer the first question I raised.
<br>
<br>
< Invitations to attend have been in circulation longer than
that.>
<br>
<br>
Bis repetita : to whom were these invitations sent "longer than that"
? The info appeared on our list on April 26th as an attached document.
<br>
<br>
<the European IGF was a Parliament thing (sic), and this is the
Commission>
<br>
<br>
Definitely NO Roland Perry. Please refer to my report of the EP
January 2008 sitting I posted on our list. You'll find the approval of
the Commissioner to the proposal made by the Catherine Trautmann, MEP
and rapporteur of the Information Society, for a European IGF to be set
up before the Hyderabad IGF. Thus, for your personal information I've
pasted hereafter a small exerpt of my report.
<br>
<br>
<Conclusion by Commissioner Kuneva
<br>
The following step : Consultations to be held in Geneva in February;
the Commission will participate in the consultative group. EC is
present in the WSIS process still its very beginning. She thanks
particularly Mrs Trautmann and supports her proposal of a European IGF
to be organized and held as soon as possible. Internet governance is a
key issue and therefore the EC supports the analysis and suggestions of
the EP delegation at Rio.>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Finally, I'd remind you that for the CS organizations, engaged in the
WSIS process and in its actual follow-up, the IGF and its regional
declinations (e.g. the European IGF) is not a "thing" of the EP, but
still is one of our (we as European citizens) main objectives for a
people centered and inclusive Internet, as proclaimed in the CS
Declarations of both the Geneva Summit and the Tunis Summit.
<br>
<br>
Nevertheless, I'm not astonished by your comments and advice since you
are a distinguished member of the Internet industry. This is your
perfect and respectable right. But we the actual WSIS CS, and
especially the European one, we need more defining ourselves our
beheaviour and guidelines than "buying" advive from some Internet
professionnals. Since we have at least the same knowledge and
experience, and what's more, we are citizens from our countries, free
and independant from any business, and profoundly committed to
improving the lives of peoples, in the North but also in the South. And
we do hope that ICT and Internet will strongly contribute to this aim.
That's why we are fighting i.a. for a suitable Internet governance.
<br>
<br>
Best
<br>
Jean-Louis Fullsack
<br>
<br>
<br>
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Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 6:38 PM
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Subject: Re: AW: [governance] hearing on Internet Governance
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<blockquote type="cite"><br>
In message <169F4816BEC54B01A6CC3D5D6A654727@PCbureau>, at
18:22:14 on Thu, 30 Apr 2009, jlfullsack <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jlfullsack@wanadoo.fr"><jlfullsack@wanadoo.fr></a>
writes
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">A far as I understand there was no formal
invitation to the CS involved in IG or generally in Internet issues for
participating in this "hearing".
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
It's just a fancy name for a meeting, and I agree it's likely to be
more of a brainstorming session than people talking to Powerpoint
slides.
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Second, as for the preceding ITRE Hearing,
the announcement (to whom ?) was made just one week before the meeting.
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Invitations to attend have been in circulation longer than that.
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Third, all these "hearings" don't replace
an actual European IGF, promised to the EU citizens in January last
year, because
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
... the European IGF was a Parliament thing, and this is the
Commission.
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Therefore, the urgent setting-up of an
actual Euro-IGF is the third point that should be strongly raised by
(one of) our WSIS CS member(s).
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Firstly, you are talking to the wrong people, and secondly it all
depends who gets re-elected, and whether the Parliament mandate to have
such a meeting is renewed. I suggest you lobby the reformed ITRE
committee after the summer.
<br>
-- <br>
Roland Perry
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